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WTB Slalom skis

post #1 of 24
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For my wife. Her fave skis right now are 164cm im88s but they don't exactly give her a good technical learning tool. She would benefit from some time time on a pair of carving skis. I think 160-165 in a more easy going SL race ski would work well for her. Something that will give her good feelings when she finishes her turns.
post #2 of 24
there have been a ton on Ebay of late, take a gander there.
post #3 of 24
Not a slalom ski, the Head Magnum would be a great ski to develop skills. It would provide a broader range of use, too.
post #4 of 24
Tromano

i have a nice pair of Salomon slalom skis in a 156 that would fit the bill well. They are mounted with the poweraxe race plate and Solly 912s. This is a really nice slalom ski that is not too much hard work like some race stock skis but still rewards proper input. looking for $150
post #5 of 24

Out of curiosity

Did she give up the Sugar Daddies?
post #6 of 24
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Tromano

i have a nice pair of Salomon slalom skis in a 156 that would fit the bill well. They are mounted with the poweraxe race plate and Solly 912s. This is a really nice slalom ski that is not too much hard work like some race stock skis but still rewards proper input. looking for $150
Do you have any pics?
post #7 of 24
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Did she give up the Sugar Daddies?
Haha, nope, but she wants to be able to use them more effectively.
post #8 of 24
Race skis as a learning tool!? Don't they make slalom shaped rec skis anymore?
post #9 of 24
Head SS Magnum, in a 156.

or a little more demanding and better edgehold a bit tighter radius

WC Supershape

Both have sidecut right in the midst of slalom ski country!
post #10 of 24
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Race skis as a learning tool!? Don't they make slalom shaped rec skis anymore?
I have heard some interesting stories about how skiing higher performance SL or race ski can help to up your game if you are already a pretty good skier.
post #11 of 24
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Haha, nope, but she wants to be able to use them more effectively.
Dunno that SL skis are going to help with -that-, unless she were to put ungodly buckets of lift on the daddies.

Pivot slips, retraction, and ILE would seem to me to be the name of the game with the SDs.



BTW, I totally support the SL idea on general principles.

I think she meets both of my criteria back here http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=76077, namely, she is conditioned to lateral ground reaction force, and she is perfectly capable of mentally sequencing arcs down a hill without slippage and direct line travel.
post #12 of 24
dynastar has a bunch of skis for her. Go lower down the line than contact 10.
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Dunno that SL skis are going to help with -that-, unless she were to put ungodly buckets of lift on the daddies.

Pivot slips, retraction, and ILE would seem to me to be the name of the game with the SDs.



BTW, I totally support the SL idea on general principles.

I think she meets both of my criteria back here http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=76077, namely, she is conditioned to lateral ground reaction force, and she is perfectly capable of mentally sequencing arcs down a hill without slippage and direct line travel.
I was thinking more in terms of getting her to be more fluid into and out of turns. I think some time on a SL ski would help her to get a feel for different turn shapes and using turn shape more (more used to arcing turns and not using as much braking) and that as a result she could then take those into skiing off piste.
post #14 of 24
The ski alone won't do all that.

Using braking as the default technique is the trouble. Usually means the skier "turns all at once"; ie, there is nothing progressive about the turn..... that will take some instruction, not new skis.
post #15 of 24
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The ski alone won't do all that.

Using braking as the default technique is the trouble. Usually means the skier "turns all at once"; ie, there is nothing progressive about the turn..... that will take some instruction, not new skis.
I am not sure I have done a good job explaining what specifc skills or masteries she is going to work on. Partly becuase I don't know. Certainly she will be getting some additional coaching at an updoming ESA. I am not a coach, not trained in MA, and cannot say anythign specificly as far as what she should work on. I know that she wants so work on some stuff to become more dynamic in her skiing overall and that she needs a ski to practice advanced and expert level technical skiing.

As far as the ski fixing anythign... I think she is looking to get a ski that will help to reveal what is not working, not to help fix anything per se. Ideally the ski would be demanding of proper technique and rewarding when skied correctly. My experience is that different skis give feed back that helps a skier do different things better. Being on the right equipment, equipment that tells you to do the right things, can make skiing and learning much easier. I don't think new equipment is going to magicly improve things all by its self. However if you are going to pay $1000 for ESA then it also makes sense to pay $200 for the right tool to help her learn while she is there.

I sort of wish I still had a narrow carver in my quiver. They ar ea hoot to ski on. Even if she doesn't learn anythign from it, it shodl be fun. I don't see how a SL ski could be a bad idea. Worst case scenario she doesn't ski them and we sell them in a year or two.
post #16 of 24
A carver/SL ski is not a bad idea.

A stiff/race oriented SL is a very bad idea.

I suggest that you look for a ski that rewards good skiing, but does not punish failure. Negative feedback from a ski tends to make folks STOP moving, when what you really want to see is more (correct) movement.

In my view, it is an error to buy a ski that tells you when you are skiing badly. Usually that means a tiny sweet-spot, which means the ski is stiff..... most people that are learning would hate to use such a ski.

I really don't know what you're going to find for $200.
post #17 of 24
Apologies for questioning your intent. I didn't consider that this is a WTB thread, and that you are asking for skis to buy, not advice on what to buy. The advantage of race skis over rec carvers is that they tend to get turned over quicker and your chances of scoring a used pair cheap is better.

M is a pretty good skier. In my opinion, she can learn carving on slalom skis (preferably retail, not race stock). The edging skills developed/refined should transfer to powder skiing although they will be applied differently.
post #18 of 24
I have a pair of Fischer Race SC (white and black color scheme) that are from early 200x years (purchased used and I used them 1 season). They are 160 cm with good bottoms and some usual top sheet nicks and scratches that are really mostly all cosmetic. They have Marker 11 din binding on them I have some photos and can PM you links if you would like to see them. These are not full race stock by any means but yet hold an edge like most Fischers on ice or in a course. Think closer to the RX8 series than their world cup race skis.

Price is $110 plus actual shipping OBO. Otherwise they may go back up on Ebay soon.
post #19 of 24
Great move tim and madeline!!!

I dont have anything to offer you in skis(and no tim you cant have my Fishers!!!).

this should help alot, also even though I think she is passed it. I still endorse duck tape on the bottom of the goggle just for a funny TR!!!

Rshea deal is hard to pass up those in a 160 should be great for a budget.
post #20 of 24
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rshea, YHPM.
post #21 of 24
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Great move tim and madeline!!!

I dont have anything to offer you in skis(and no tim you cant have my Fishers!!!).

this should help alot, also even though I think she is passed it. I still endorse duck tape on the bottom of the goggle just for a funny TR!!!

Rshea deal is hard to pass up those in a 160 should be great for a budget.
BWIPA, Thanks for posting. Glad to hear you think this is the way to go. As for ducktape, we will see.
post #22 of 24
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Great move tim and madeline!!!

I dont have anything to offer you in skis(and no tim you cant have my Fishers!!!).

this should help alot, also even though I think she is passed it. I still endorse duck tape on the bottom of the goggle just for a funny TR!!!

Rshea deal is hard to pass up those in a 160 should be great for a budget.
Thanks. ...

and about the duck tape...uh, not so sure about that...
post #23 of 24
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Thanks to all. I did ended up purchasing from rshea.
post #24 of 24
Getting them ready over the weekend and will be planning on shipping them out the beginning of the week- Tuesday hopefully.

Hope your wife enjoys them and puts them to good use for her skiing progression.
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