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Bode's Bindings

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
Bode skis out of his bindings at least once or twice a season, but somehow manages to ski on at 6o mph. Yesterday he did it in a full force super-g turn, while leading the race. Kept on his feet and made a nice stop. Unbelievable.

http://www.universalsports.com/media...FILE_ID=353150
post #2 of 27
Yeah that was truly an impressive sight. Not only did he lose his outside ski, but did so right at the top of the steepest part of the course, and came to a fairly leisurely and controlled stop. I'm not sure that anyone else on the WC would be able to get such a nasty situation under control as gracefully.

On another note, props to John Kucera, and the Herminator, it was great to see that he's still got some wins left in him.
post #3 of 27
Does this guy ever crash?
post #4 of 27
HoLy CrAp! Damn Bode... Way to make that look easy- My God, if a mere mortal had done the same thing I'm guessing he would have been waiting for a cadaver to replace all his knee goodies!
post #5 of 27
It almost looks like something funny is going on with his skiing starting at the 42-second mark, almost four seconds before the ski comes off.
post #6 of 27
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
It almost looks like something funny is going on with his skiing starting at the 42-second mark, almost four seconds before the ski comes off.
Bob, I haven't looked at the video yet but I thought the report on skiracing.com talked about the binding pulling out of the ski which could have contributed to that
post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by ScotsSkier View Post
Bob, I haven't looked at the video yet but I thought the report on skiracing.com talked about the binding pulling out of the ski which could have contributed to that
I read that, but at the end of the video it shows him stepping back into it, so that might be an invention od a reporter who thinks we screw the boots to the skis.
post #8 of 27

Bode Miller - SG at Lake Louise, CAN Nov 2008 one ski

Bode Miller - SG at Lake Louise, CAN Nov 2008 one ski



0:51 loses ski
1:30 replay

Alternate links
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE4bnrNavOY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdTV53ZQlOk

Most folks would not be able to recover after losing a ski at that speed (first split at 11 seconds showed 114.5 kmh/71.2 mph and was leading by 0.26 seconds at second split at 33 seconds) in a SG and then get back up to make a few controlled turns on one ski to safely come to a stop instead of a yard sale or corkscrew style crash.
post #9 of 27
I can't get any of the videos to work for me at the moment, so I'm going from memory of what I saw on the tele.

Bode can do that because he's practiced one-ski skiing on the DH course.

Yeah, the binding released, but seeing how his ski hit that rut, I have to wonder if his leg would have broken had the binding not released.
post #10 of 27
to Maier & Kucera!
I enjoyed the SG much more than the DH. Bode looks to be physically sronger & skiing better than ever. I hope he doesn't get discouraged by the bad luck. Were any of us really surprised that he could stay on his feet after that. I liked Porino's comment "He's gotta be pissed on this one".
Can't wait for the Birds of Prey.

JF
post #11 of 27
He was off balance for two gates, and was completely on his inside ski at the gate where he lost it. When your outside ski isn't pressured during a turn and you hit irregularities in the terrain, there's a high probably the binding will release as the ski counterflexes. It's happened to me many times in the past. It happened to Ken Read in the Olympic men's downhill at Lake Placid. Bode's ski loss wasn't caused by binding failure, it was caused by a momentary breakdown of technique at the worst possible time. A binding can only handle so much.
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by exracer View Post
He was off balance for two gates, and was completely on his inside ski at the gate where he lost it. When your outside ski isn't pressured during a turn and you hit irregularities in the terrain, there's a high probably the binding will release as the ski counterflexes. It's happened to me many times in the past. It happened to Ken Read in the Olympic men's downhill at Lake Placid. Bode's ski loss wasn't caused by binding failure, it was caused by a momentary breakdown of technique at the worst possible time. A binding can only handle so much.
Interesting. That would explain how he blew the outside ski and didn't go down...he was already on the inside ski. As they say with Bode, "he either wins or crashes, sometimes both in the same race."
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by exracer View Post
He was off balance for two gates, and was completely on his inside ski at the gate where he lost it. Bode's ski loss wasn't caused by binding failure, it was caused by a momentary breakdown of technique at the worst possible time.
Well, we must've been watching two different races. I'm curious as to the 'breakdown of technique' you see.

Me? One of the great super-g runs I have seen. Strong. Intent. Squeezing the line. Stable. Powerful. In full drive mode. Really good. As in, watch his first 55 seconds and see how the sg can be skied. Frickin' gorgeous. Man, the guy's on a mission. Truly impressive.

Technical breakdown? Yeah, right. He was so off balance he skied to a stop, in disappointment - on one ski.
post #14 of 27
Thread Starter 
Don't be so defensive. Bode is constantly throwing in little corrections and flails, and he was a bit off balance on the previous gates. He was on the inside ski for that turn. Had the ski stayed on he probably would have won the race, but the turn in question was far from perfect. That's Bode.
post #15 of 27
Bode was skiing on the ragged edge, but on the right side of it. He just was not fortunate enough to not hit that nasty rut like he did in the shape he was in.

Do I think Bode should spend more time studying the course? Yes.
Would it have made any difference for that particular bump? No.
Should Bode be more conservative? No.

The similarities between Read, Podborski and Bode are striking: bad luck at the Olympics and phenomenal performance on the world cup.
post #16 of 27
It is funny how peoples eyes interpret things differently.
JF
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by whygimf View Post
Well, we must've been watching two different races. I'm curious as to the 'breakdown of technique' you see.

Me? One of the great super-g runs I have seen. Strong. Intent. Squeezing the line. Stable. Powerful. In full drive mode. Really good. As in, watch his first 55 seconds and see how the sg can be skied. Frickin' gorgeous. Man, the guy's on a mission. Truly impressive.

Technical breakdown? Yeah, right. He was so off balance he skied to a stop, in disappointment - on one ski.
Huhh????
Take a closer look.

He was having a great run until a "momentary breakdown" beginning at 41.8 seconds, when his skis jet during his switch, putting him completely on his uphill ski. Normally, not a big deal for Bode, but by 42.3 he is completely inside with his weight far back and his butt almost on the snow. At this point he is almost on the gate, with no weight on his outside ski. He makes the turn (no question about his athleticism) but is way inside and back, then the camera loses him until the next gate on the fall away at 45 seconds. He passes the gate inclined into the turn with his weight on the inside ski and his outside arm high over his head (holy cow... you don't call that a breakdown of technique???). The outside ski hits a minor ripple, and without any weight on the ski it vibrates off as it counter flexes. Pretty typical binding performance under those conditions. Bode is usually a master of recovering from his frequent faux pas, and probably would have pulled it off this time were it not for the unique combination of technical error at a point where the error, combined with course conditions, caused the binding to release.
post #18 of 27
+1^^^^

Agree 100%. I'm friendly with people who have known Bode since his teen years. Most of them are athletes, or former athletes, and they describe Bode as unquestionably the best athlete {pure athleticism} they've ever seen.

He's bigger, stronger, and more fit than ever this season. From what I hear, the majority of his work centered around strengthening what was already a very strong core. That core enables him to pull it together unlike anybody else when on what looks like the edge of disaster. He generates incredible edge angle, and has the strength to simply do things that other guys can't. The line he skis isn't just steering in that direction.

The tremendous strength and athleticism enables him to do things like ski to a stop on one ski after throwing that shoe in a WC SG, or finishing a WC DH on one ski. I can't even imagine it! But I think ex racer has it right on the money. He didn't have an ounce of pressure on the outside ski. It hit some junk, flopped around and released. Had he had a touch more luck, and any weight on that ski, he likely could have held it together. Might have been in the money.

Like him or not, the guy is an incredible athlete, and a bigger and stronger one this year. He's also smart, and an incredible student of the entire sport. I'm not talking about any personal decisions in his past, I mean his approach to his racing. We should have a lot of fun watching this year.
post #19 of 27
Exracer, good call. I've watched that happen for years. A kid gets inside and the ski pops. Could often call it happening before it did. He was back and inside as he threw them sideways for that top of the pitch gate. Wouldn't have been a prob if he hadn't come down in that cross rut. Probably more of a cross rut because he was coming in straighter than the guys before him.

He should just weld the damn things,,, never needs them to release anyway.

whygimf, I agree. A fabulous spectacular piece of skiing before the ejection.
post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by exracer View Post
He was off balance for two gates, and was completely on his inside ski at the gate where he lost it. When your outside ski isn't pressured during a turn and you hit irregularities in the terrain, there's a high probably the binding will release as the ski counterflexes. It's happened to me many times in the past. It happened to Ken Read in the Olympic men's downhill at Lake Placid. Bode's ski loss wasn't caused by binding failure, it was caused by a momentary breakdown of technique at the worst possible time. A binding can only handle so much.
Absolutely correct.

It was a result of what he did a turn and a half before. Got a little loaded at 0.47 (? terrain +/- late on the pressure) 2 gates before, popped, got behind his feet. As a result, line was off a bit coming through the next gate, he never really got on top of the ski, then late on the switch, no move to the new ski... and voila. If the snow had been buff he woulda pulled it off .

Watch it again Whygimf.... The guy's the best, but he isn't perfect.

The guy just continues to ski better every year though - I can't wait to see what comes next.
post #21 of 27
A bunch of wins at Beaver Creek come next!
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by whygimf View Post
Technical breakdown? Yeah, right. He was so off balance he skied to a stop, in disappointment - on one ski.
I saw exactly what exracer saw. He was in the process of either blowing up or barely getting away with it starting a couple gates back. Blew shoe and was able to ski it out with a lot of strength and athleticism.
post #23 of 27
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A bunch of wins at Beaver Creek come next!
not if the snow continues. today was cancelled due to snow, we'll have to wait until tomorrow to see what happens
post #24 of 27
I am no expert....but I saw the same thing exracer elaborated upon....just better than I could ever have done. He was way inside.

Bode is the best....now go win MAN.
post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
I saw exactly what exracer saw. He was in the process of either blowing up or barely getting away with it starting a couple gates back. Blew shoe and was able to ski it out with a lot of strength and athleticism.
Me too - the first time I saw the video "pre-pre-release".
post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by I:)Skiing View Post
Bode is the best....
Svindal has proven otherwise. Three events on the weekend, 2 2 1sts and 1 3rd.
post #27 of 27
Absolutely... an amazing comeback for Svindal after last season's injuries. If he continues, everyone else will be in his dust this season.
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