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post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
We are heading to Eden, Utah (Powder Mountain and Snowbasin) on 12/20 for a two week vacation with the family. Starting to get a little nervous about the lack of snow. It seems as if we getting more snow here in the mid-atlantic region. Can someone give me some good news to help me be more optimistic with the conditions.

Starting to get a little worried....

Ski Family
post #2 of 33
With the mid-Atlantic and Northeast having an extremely early winter, you have an opportunity to get some turns in before your trip.

i know not exactly what you are looking for, but I thought maybe it could help.

Edit/addition: You are going to two great mountains, look on the brightside, even with marginal snow, you should be able to find enough terrain to keep you occupied. Plus its Utah, a two foot dump can come out of nowhere.

If all else fails, you can just enjoy Snowbasin's bathrooms, they alone are worth the trip. (If I didn't, someone else would've)
post #3 of 33
Thread Starter 
Oh...looking for someone with crystal ball to assure us that conditions will be great...not asking for much.
post #4 of 33
we have gotten 16" since Thursday here in Colorado. More snow in the forecast.
post #5 of 33
Snowbasin had to postpone opening on Thanksgiving due to warm temps., but should be open with very limited skiing by this weekend. Unless it starts snowing, it will be all machine made snow. Powder Mt. has very limited snowmaking & probably won't open till Mother Nature cooperates. There is very little snow left from earlier storms.

Don't be to discouraged, last year started out the same but really kicked into gear right before Christmas. It is not looking like a great early season though.

Keep your finges crossed & hope for the best.

JF
post #6 of 33
Thread Starter 
We are definately keeping our fingers crossed and doing a snow dance. I guess worse case we could head over to Snowbird, Alta and Solitude.
post #7 of 33
Start praying to Ullr every day and in every way, and he may reward your efforts with some snow. Maybe throw in a few small animal sacrifices for good measure.
post #8 of 33
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Originally Posted by skifamily View Post
12/20
Lightyears away! Taos had to postpone opening day last year, and ended up opening ~3 weeks later with massive quantities of snow.

Enjoy all the snow you've got in the east for now, and look forward to your trip to some great mountains.
post #9 of 33
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Originally Posted by skifamily View Post
I guess worse case we could head over to Snowbird, Alta and Solitude.
zOMFG! Now that's a horrible fate I wouldn't wish upon anybody. (c:
post #10 of 33
I'm planning on sking SB and PM starting 12-28 and I'm starting to get nervous. Unfortunately, this weather pattern doesn't appear to want to stop. Big high is pushing storms away from norhtern Utah. Aside from dribbles from edges of storms riding over ridge, don't see much for next couple of weeks. However, pattern can change and start letting N. Utah get some direct hits. Conditions could change very quickly if that happens. Pray for change. If doesn't, hopefully dribbles are enuf for Cottonwoods.
post #11 of 33
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Originally Posted by lloyd braun View Post
we have gotten 16" since Thursday here in Colorado. More snow in the forecast.
Where did you get that info? All the places I have looked have gotten 2 feet in the past 48hrs
post #12 of 33
I wouldn't get too worried ... yet - there are still a few weeks before your trip. Last year was similar at Snowbasin - not much natural snow through early December ... then it all changed. By Christmas, we had several storms with plenty of fresh snow. In fact, it dumped about 3 feet the week leading up to Christmas last year.

There is a quick storm headed this way Tue/Tue night, which is forecast for 4" - 8", possibly more. I'm not sure about the next few weeks, but I heard the forecast for the month of December in N. Utah is for near normal temps with above normal precip. However, in order for this to happen, the persistent ridge in the west will need to break down and allow the storms in from the NW.

As you said, there is always LCC/BCC to visit should things not work out for Snowbasin/Powder. But this is Utah - one week and a few storms could make a world of difference.
post #13 of 33
Thread Starter 
Thank you for your optimistic view. I have heard conditions could change very quickly and within a day or two we could be in great shape. We are being cautiously optimistic and are hoping for the best. Given we will be there for two weeks I am sure as some point we will have a good storm or two.

Thanks again and can't wait!
post #14 of 33
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Originally Posted by SkiNebraski View Post
Where did you get that info?
my front porch. any other questions?
post #15 of 33
So far, it's pretty discouraging here (northern UT). It has hardly been cold and outside of one storm a couple of weeks ago, snow is non-existent. Today is about 60 degrees and sunny so it's not looking up.

That being said--Dec. 20th is still a world's away and plenty of time for a turnaround. I remember last season I was in Steamboat and they postponed opening back from the annual Thanksgiving Day opener and then went on to get pounded all December long and shatter their season total. Last year may have been an extreme, but there's always hope--you don't average 400-500 inches a year without pretty consistent snow.
post #16 of 33
One other point to brighten your day--if conditions still suck here, there are another 10 resorts or so within easy commute--it should be decent somewhere.
post #17 of 33
you have to stop thinking EC mentality. We get all excited about 4 inches, WC gets excited about 4 feet. It only takes 1 or 2 storms in the next 3 weeks for all the snow you need (if there is such a thing)
post #18 of 33
I had the same fears last year as December approached - I delayed my trip to Steamboat by one week - then the snow started and didn't stop til I left in January. The locals all say the same thing, you can't predict when it will start, but when it does, it doesn't stop. Have faith in the snow gods and relax - it's gonna rock.
post #19 of 33
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post #20 of 33
Skifamily,

After posting this morning I decided to go up to Snowbasin & poke around. Here is a little encouragement:



As you can see, there is not much snow off the run, but they're working hard to make snow & fill things in.

I think I'll do a quick TR & post a couple more pics there.

JF
post #21 of 33
The national weather service climate prediction center is predicting slightly above normal precip for northern utah for 6-14 day time frame. That's the first time I've seen that in several weeks. there's hope.
post #22 of 33
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Originally Posted by lloyd braun View Post
my front porch. any other questions?
Yeah, You skiing aspen the 5th-9th at all? Would love it a bear would show me and a friend around. We both will have 20+ days under our belt so we can at least try and keep up.
post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by SkiNebraski View Post
Yeah, You skiing aspen the 5th-9th at all? Would love it a bear would show me and a friend around. We both will have 20+ days under our belt so we can at least try and keep up.
pm
me
post #24 of 33
Patience. It only takes one storm.
post #25 of 33
Thread Starter 
I know I know.....it's a coming! We will keep our fingers crossed and keep up the prayers.

Thanks.
post #26 of 33
I would really like for someone to tell me I'm off base, but the GFS computer models seem to show the big high staying put for next 2 weeks. This is getting ridiculous. I've heard rumblings of changes around Dec. 10, but don't really see in models. Tell me I'm wrong please.
post #27 of 33
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Originally Posted by Maui Steve View Post
Tell me I'm wrong please.
It is getting cloudy now, & supposed to snow this afternoon & tonight with lowering snow levels.

From the UAC this morning:
We'll see increasing clouds ahead of today's cold front. Snowfall should begin in the early afternoon and continue into the evening. The northern Utah mountains may see 3-7” of snow by tonight as the fast moving storm races off into Colorado. Temps will plunge into the upper teens tonight and the veering winds, while gusty at the time of frontal passage, will start to relax tonight. Another, weaker disturbance clips northern Utah on Thursday ahead of another warming trend for the weekend. There may be some cause for optimism early next week.

Are you wrong, I hope so.
JF
post #28 of 33
Here is some of the most promising forecast information for Northern Utah so far this (short) season. Hopefully it is the beginning of the change we have been waiting for.

From NWS:

... A DEVELOPING RIDGE NEAR OR A LITTLE WEST OF 140W WILL BRING A SERIES OF ENERGETIC TROUGHS SE THROUGH THE BASIN BEGINNING EARLY NEXT WEEK. SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF PRECIP ARE POSSIBLE DURING NEXT WEEK...WITH TEMPS COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW MOST ELEVATIONS BY MIDWEEK.
post #29 of 33
Heading to Steamboat for the 13-20th. Do I need to sacrifice anything..of Finndogs, to make sure we have a good week of snow?
post #30 of 33
Sorry, but we'll be hogging all the snow up in Canada this year starting tomorrow as we wish to ski until July this year.

Seriously, it's early yet. You'll get your share of snow.
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