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Comparing the Mythic Rider and the K2 Crossfire

post #1 of 8
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I'm you average All Mountain Skier. I'm a Ski Instructor. In PA. Looking For new Skis this season and Have narrowed it down to the K2 Crossfire and the Dynastar Mythic Rider.
The Crossfire is a Good Eastern Ski from what I have been told talking to the K2 rep. Have not talked to a Dynastar rep.
The Mythic rider sounds like it may do well gripping out Ice and then Floating our spring Crud. The mash potatoes and then Heavy Sugar we get at night in the spring.
The Crossfire is a stiffer ski with a metal Sheet in it. Have not seen anywhere on the Mythic construction.
I'm Not a Bumps or park skier. I'm an Advanced Skier liking my Blues, Blacks and Double Blacks.
Anyone with some Good input would be great.

post #2 of 8
How did you come up with these two as a pair to consider? They are pretty far apart as far as their terrain targets and are not really comparable models.

The Crossfire is a primarily groomer ski of medium flex and medium appetite for hard snow. The Mythic is targeted as a 50/50 ski meaning half the time on groomers and half off trail. For it's category, the MR does reasonably well on hard snow, but it's forte' is mixed conditions, crud, and generally softer snow. The proper Dynastar to compare to the Crossfire is the Contact 4X4. The proper K2 to compare to the Mythic is either the Explorer or the Outlaw.

FWIW......the Crossfire is one of K2's better offerings in recent years. However, it is a notch below the 4X4 in grip and versatility and is not really the same caliber of ski. The 4X4 would make an excellent midwestern work ski.

post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Honestly I've always been a k2 guy. and at our pro night I spoke with the K2 rep, only rep there that night. They described it as a great eastern Ski. Being we are in Pennsylvania and Rarely go west it would be a good choice.

I then came accross the Mythic Rider and saw it described as a great Crud ski. and that caught my attention. As conditions here in the east can really suck especialy in the spring. we get piles of crap scraped up from the snow boarders during the day too. so you can go from ice to piles of crap in a matter of 30ft. It seemed like the MR would hold it's edge better on the ice and then remain on its edge to slice throught the crap.

My last pair of skis were the K2 Axis. they were the Blue ones. (sorry do not know the exact model) Beleive they were 2003 I do know that they did not have any metal sheeting. and I wanted a Stiffer Ski this year.

Hope my rambling make sence.
post #4 of 8
don't forget the recon
post #5 of 8
Agree 100% with what SierraJim said. His comparison of the two skis is spot. However, I would forget the recon. The crossfire is a good groomer skis I would not consider it stiff but for a K2 it is on the stiffer side of their offerings. The 4x4 is a great option for you thoug
post #6 of 8
If you're not wedded to the K2s or Dynastars, I would look at the Head IM78 or 82. Very good edgehold and great crudbusters.

I have the older IM77 and it's fantastic in cut up snow.

post #7 of 8
I bought the MRs last week and got lucky enough to give them a try on Sat. REALLY icy conditions, started with my 165 Salomon Equipe 3V and had fun, then proceeded to try the MRs and to my great surprise, they held not as good as the SLs but very close. I'm 185 lbs and got them in 178, they are real solid, wood construction, no metal (right?), so they're relatively light.... Love 'em !!!!!!!!!!!!! And in small corny bumps they were stable and relatively nimble so it was good.

Haven't tried the other ones though...
post #8 of 8
The conditions you described are not really crud in the sense that wider western-oriented skis are labeled as crudbusters. When they say good in crud, they generally mean skiing cut up powder and powder that has transitioned from untracked to tracked. The MRs, and many other skis, are great at this. However, if you're talking about eastern manmade snow that gets scraped up and pushed around by heavy traffic, and may result in piles of granular (or slush in spring) in between patches of ice, then it's a different skill-set for the skier and the ski. That stuff can be too heavy and sticky for even the best crudbuster skis, and you're generally going to be better off skiing around it or slicing through it rather than trying to bust through it or float over it like you would in real crud. Sounds picky, but there is a big difference (especially in the mid-Atlantic). I have some skis that are great crudbusters out west, but they would be totally the wrong skis for high-traffic mid-atlantic manmade conditions. Generally, something in the 76mm range, with a fair amount of beef, is the ski you want to look for. The Head iM77 or iM78 would be good choices, as would the Elan Magfires and Fischer Heats that fall in that width range. I don't have much experience with the K2s in recent years, but the older Axis X skis I owned were pretty good for mid-A skiing. Good luck!
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