Originally Posted by robruf
Thanks for the opinions guys, but I was hoping to get an opinion from someone who really knows their stuff, anyone who works in a ski shop or a rep for a ski clothing manufacturer. Killy and Bogner and especially Degre 7 are well respected in Europe, just because in North America they do not have alot or any advertising does not mean they are an inferior product, everyone who I have spoken with in the industry in telling me that their build quality is second to none, same with Eider, I just don't like the look of Eider, it looks like Helly Hansen and Arc'teryx. Just not my style that's all. I was hoping that someone would answer if they had one of the above jackets and could let me know about their build quality, their technical merits, ie) whether they work or not, and how long do they last?
(I'm totaly legit : : I'm euro, I usualy ski with a Eider hardshell or a Arc'teryx softshell and Degré 7 or Schoeffel pants. My family owns or recently ownned clothes by Eider, Arc'teryx, Degré 7, Schoeffel, Haglofs, Millet, Killy etc. And I think I did stay at a holliday inn once.)
Bogner is not respected in europe. It's considered as overpriced and ugly gear aimed at americans (or german Nascar fans...). It's a joke here too.
Killy makes very good gear but is totally overpriced. (And I know quite well Killy flagship store in Val d'Isère. The prices are insulting). Save your $ for Arc'teryx.
Degré 7 is not what it used to be. (Muleski has it right). It now makes average quality gear at a good price. Fair value for money, on the cheap side of the equation. Better for kids. I own a degré 7 pant that's very meh (I bought it because it was tall but it doesn't breathe well, the zippers suck and the lining is always twisted) and my 6 years old daughter has a jacket + pant from their kids line which are really nice, considering the price.
If you're looking for high quality euro gear, consider Millet, Kjus, Schoeffel, Haglofs, Norrona or Eider...
Eider is great value for money IMO. Not on par with Arc'teryx, but very good nonetheless and much cheaper (where I live anyway). haglofs and Schoeffel are ugly but top notch quality stuff. Kjus and Norrona are faultless.
For women, Eider and Scott makes great jackets, with nice fabrics bonded over technical membrane
Ski makers clothes are quite good too. Salomon and Rossi makes (or brand) very nice technical wear.