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post #31 of 47
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So would real high speed rail from Boston to DC. Except that would actually serve population centers, not real estate developers and skiers.
Sadly true, I am the only one I know that would actually use it on a regular basis for work, groceries and other stuff like that. I would probably just sell my car if it was done right. But if the buses are anything to go by the monorail would probably stop in evergreen, skip all of Clear Creek including loveland then stop in summit.
post #32 of 47
Shelbyville has a monorail.

post #33 of 47
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Shelbyville has a monorail.


That looks like a Christine Scanlan campaign ad!
post #34 of 47
I still don't understand what fixing I-70 could possibly look like in the real world. The I-70 resorts are already horribly crowded on weekends so spending billions to magically transport even more day-trippers into Summit/Eagle county seems to me to be a poor plan.

Tourism is hurt by overcrowding. If we want to increase tourism, we need to provide a better experience--which means reducing the number of local skiers. That is best accomplished by doing away with cheap seasons passes and increasing the costs enough to achieve the desired reduction in local skier visits. While I'm certainly not advocating that as a solution, it is IMO the only approach that actually makes fiscal and practical sense.

People want to ski and as long as development continues in the Front Range, the numbers of potential skiers will continue to increase unabated. As long as that continues, any attempt to improve the I-70 mess will be temporary at best. There is simply no transportation alternative in existence that can scale to meet endless demand, so until we can get a handle on that, it seems pointless to talk about this like its a solvable problem.
post #35 of 47
What might fixing I70 look like? How about breck expands to peak 6, peak 5, peak 4, and on northward. Copper expands to Vail.

After all, its not wilderness...

Mike
post #36 of 47
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
I was referring to the venue structures and the Olympic infrastructure that remains. The unused and underutilized crap that goes along with hosting a world wide event. Ever thought of that?
WTF are you talking about. Where do you think all the up and coming world class luge, skeleton, and bobsled teams train??
Let alone ski jumping and spinny flippy twisty peeps.
The Kearns Ice sheet is one of the fastest best ice tracks in the world. The Solider Hollow cc/biatholon site hosts a lot of events even in the summer and is great open space in an area that is being over devoloped with luxery golf courses and crap. Even the damn trappers loop road Earl scored isn't a bad thing. The olympics were a great thing for SLC. You are a stokeless asshat who posts crap and gives stoner skibums a bad name.
post #37 of 47
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Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
WTF are you talking about. Where do you think all the up and coming world class luge, skeleton, and bobsled teams train??
Let alone ski jumping and spinny flippy twisty peeps.
The Kearns Ice sheet is one of the fastest best ice tracks in the world. The Solider Hollow cc/biatholon site hosts a lot of events even in the summer and is great open space in an area that is being over devoloped with luxery golf courses and crap. Even the damn trappers loop road Earl scored isn't a bad thing. The olympics were a great thing for SLC. You are a stokeless asshat who posts crap and gives stoner skibums a bad name.
So you mean to say that every post Olympic venue city starts up a new bobsled training camp for future bobsled teams/comps? Does the average skier give a crap about huge 90m ski jumps? Left over biatholon venues are great ways for preserving open space? Fastest "ice track" in the world?
Come on man, we are talking about the average person utilizing this stuff, not just a handful of Olympic hopefuls to use! Most SLC residents don't even ski at the local (world class) resorts, so why do you feel that they NEED to have a new local Olympic training venue? Does every city need this "benefit?"
post #38 of 47
None of this matters, the 2018 Olympics will go to Dubai.
post #39 of 47
Don't worry about it bro you just stay in T-ride and keep giving your $$ to your landlord and keep posting your stokeless blabber on the interweb.
post #40 of 47
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Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
Don't worry about it bro you just stay in T-ride and keep giving your $$ to your landlord and keep posting your stokeless blabber on the interweb.
I own my condo, I own my own business, and have lived most of my life here - genius. It's always the clueless gapers (like you) that tend generalize everyone into lame stereotypes just so they can feel better about their own lives. "You're from a ski town so you must be a dirtbag ski bum or a trust-funder that just moved to town!" So stop making blind ASSumptions about me personally! It makes you sound clueless! And don't call me "bro."
P.S. - Why does not wanting Denver to host the Olympics make me stokeless?!
post #41 of 47
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
I own my condo, I own my own business, and have lived most of my life here - genius. It's always the clueless gapers (like you) that tend generalize everyone into lame stereotypes just so they can feel better about their own lives. "You're from a ski town so you must be a dirtbag ski bum or a trust-funder that just moved to town!" So stop making blind ASSumptions about me personally! It makes you sound clueless! And don't call me "bro."
P.S. - Why does not wanting Denver to host the Olympics make me stokeless?!
The fact that all you ever post is bullshit babble like your excessive rants about Dukes and never anything that would incline anybody to actually believe you have any idea about what your talking about and a lack of pictures or tr's aka stoke is what makes you stokeless. Don't worry about it BRAH
I'm sure you gota a bunch of bear friends and supporters.
You shoulp post the name of your bidness so more peeps will support it.
I'm not clueless I'm out here on the starless perimeter.
Stoned Immaculate
post #42 of 47
So, in other words, you don't support the 2018 Denver Olpympics??
post #43 of 47
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Troll bait if I've ever seen it

What are the requirements for hosting the winter olympics anyway? Is there a minimum vert, or could someplace not really known for epic skiing qualify? ....
Housing for athletes, housing for media, hotels for spectators, bars, restaurants, shopping, large stadiums (stadia?) for opening and closing ceremonies. Oh, wait -- there's some sort of sports in the Olympics, too, right?
post #44 of 47
Lake Placid for the third time! Northern NY could use the economic bump.

Hard to imagine the Olympics in that town... Small!
post #45 of 47
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
So, in other words, you don't support the 2018 Denver Olpympics??
No I do support it. It would be good for the local economy
So I read your past posts here better than tgr anyhow.
Pretty sure you won't be posting the name of your business
or any pics of you back in your "big mountain comp days"
or any pics of you doing all the vert racking skiing you boast about.
Cause it's the interweb and you can be anything you want to be.
At least until you get the put up or shut up call out.
Even then you can fake it.
Bro
post #46 of 47
From what I've read, SLC had one of the better Olympic experiences from a financial point of view, and even with that, it's a bit of a muddled picture:

http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...1-27-voa21.cfm
http://ideas.repec.org/p/hcx/wpaper/0815.html

An interesting quote from the second article:

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More directly related to the topic at hand, Leeds (2007) finds that taxable sales in Colorado ski resort communities grew during the months in which their next door neighbors in Utah were hosting the 2002 Winter Olympics. Leeds attributes this rise to the displacement of tourists from resorts in the Salt Lake City region.
And then with regard to the SLC economy:

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It should be noted, furthermore, that the statistically significant gains in the hotel and restaurant industry, a combined $70.6 million, are less than half the dollar level of the reported losses in the general merchandise industry of $167.4 million.
I have also read that other places that have hosted the Olympics end up worse off in the long run.

I wouldn't purport to know what the solutions to crowding on I-70 and in the Summit Co. resorts are, but I'm guessing the Olympics won't provide them either and are also not likely to make a major positive difference to the economy of Colorado in the long run unless you're into ski jumping...
post #47 of 47
Rational, democratic governments can no longer afford to compete for these high-dollar dubious value events. epic's amusing comment is more true than many folks might imagine. Again, look at where F1 has gone and is going.
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