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To ski Utah or not to ski Utah?

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
So we're spending four weeks in Colorado to ski Summit County, Vail/Beaver Creek and Telluride or Aspen and will also visit Moab.
I've tons of input from everyone here on logistics and tks a million again!

I have a quick question, though.
We were including skiing in Utah on our list because:
1 - the snow is so good
2- we had a place to stay

As our friend is no longer going to lend us her condo , is it worthwhile for us to go there anyway? Prices are good, yes, the place too, yes, but it would demand extra costs and logistics (flight, transportation)... but.. we were REALLY looking forward to going to Utah.

Help! I need as many or as trustful arguments as possible so as not to regret not skiing in Alta or Snowbird and just exploring Colorado to the fullest or just keeping Utah in the itinerary and booking a flight to SLC asap!


Tks!

Jackie
post #2 of 25
Personally, I think Utah is a must for anyone who has a love for the sport of skiing.

I mean, also, doesn't it come down to what you can afford to do?? If you can afford getting to Utah then yes, absolutely, ski Utah.
post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 
Costwise, we figured that if we stay in Colorado we'll spend too, since it is slightly more expensive and we'd want to see Aspen or Steamboat.

Basically, we've totally exceeded our budget already, as the dollar rates to our local currency have gone crazy in the last weeks... we're just gonna blow it all and have a skiing blast.. Then we come home and just drool over our pics and snow reports for the rest of your skiing season!

But ok, sounds like totally not an option to not consider it.
post #4 of 25
I would just wait and see what conditions look like in Colorado. Sometimes Utah is better and sometimes it's not. Most of the time, it's about the same.

If you have to take public trans back to Den and then fly to SLC, then public trans up to resort, it's going to add a lot of expense.

Maybe you will meet some locals that would drive you over to SLC. It's only a six hour drive. Probably about the same as taking a shuttle to Denver and flying.
post #5 of 25
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post
Sometimes Utah is better and sometimes it's not. Most of the time, it's about the same.

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post #6 of 25
Do you want to ski or do you want to travel?

Utah is nice. But you can find lots of good snow in Colorado too.

If you want to see the continent while getting some skiing in, I'll visit both Colorado and Utah. But if you really want to get some good skiing in and still have a few coins left for that drink before flying home, stay in Colorado and ski your legs off! But if it were me, I'd just go to Utah and forget about Colorado!!!
post #7 of 25
Jackie

The primary problem you face is logistics. There's not a real public transportation option to get you easily from Summit County to Utah. So, the issue is how much you are willing to spend on transport, and whether that really is feasible.

You also face this issue with traveling to Aspen or Steamboat. I believe Lisa Marie gave you some indication of how you can get from Summit County to Vail/Beaver Creek, but even that is not all that easy.

So, here's what I would suggest.

1. If you can swing it, go to Utah. You will have a lot of options, and it is less expensive than Colorado. So while you won't be able to use your Epic pass, you will be able to have your pick of Alta/Snowbird/Brighton/Solitude/Park City. I'd plan on a week.

2. If you can swing renting a car to return, then try dropping it in Aspen. Aspen is a great compliment, and you can easily visit it on the return from SLC (stopping for a day in Moab, as previously discussed).

3. Plan on skiing at Vail/Beaver Creek on the weekend while you are in Summit County, and Breck/A Basin during the week. I personally wouldn't waste much time on Keystone, but that's me.

Another way to potentially get to SLC is to find some way to get to Glenwood Springs and ride Amtrak to SLC. But, as far as I can tell, there is no public transit to get you to Glenwood from either Vail or Summit County. So, perhaps you could arrange a car pool or something else. Note that it is possible to get to Aspen from Glenwood via a bus.

Mike
post #8 of 25
with 4 weeks of skiing, I think you should be able to Do Colorado in 3 weeks and leave a week for Utah. Don't miss Snowbird for which has no comparison for its amt of expert terrain and also Snowbasin for the luxury. You can't generally count on the snow quality being better and more in Utah. Year after year they generally get 200 inches more than everywhere else, and I think they actually underestimate their reported snowfall totals. (or so it seems)
post #9 of 25
Whether you ski Utah should depend upon the conditions when you're visiting and also if you'll be going to Moab anyway--since you'll be part of the way to the Wasatch already. If you don't come to Utah, I'd recommend looking at spending some time at Steamboat. If the conditions are right, the skiing there will rival anything we have to offer, and it's a lot closer as well.
post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 
I see, definitely wait a bit, leave out a window for last minute plans depending on snow conditions. And should not disregard Utah.

How could I get a ride or carpool, is there a 'network', Im guessing we're not the only ones leaving Summit County to SLC....anyone?

Ill look at Amtrak. Skiing in CO for two weeks, one in Snowbird or Alta, a few days in Moab and others for relocating -that does it for me and my budget!

Tks a million!
post #11 of 25
Sounds like fun to me.
post #12 of 25

UT

[quote=SHREDHEAD;1003071] Sometimes Utah is better and sometimes it's not. Most of the time, it's about the same. quote]


Don't pay any attention to what the flatlander said above. Does "about the same" mean 500 inches for Alta versus 250 inches in Summit County? Does "about the same" mean 1-5 minute lift lines in UT versus 15 minutes in Summit County?

Give UT a shot (but skip Deer Valley because that really is like Summit County).
post #13 of 25
Amtrak is an idea for getting to SLC. Is there a shuttle from Copper to Winter Park to make train connection there?
post #14 of 25
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Amtrak is an idea for getting to SLC. Is there a shuttle from Copper to Winter Park to make train connection there?
No, I don't believe there is. But you could pick up the Zephyr in Denver at ~8am. You pretty much loose a day on the train that way though.
post #15 of 25
Its worth it snowbird(which is the video in my Sig) and Snowbasin are 2 of the best resorts in country.

Snowbird blows anything out of the water for combined gnar with snow to ski it. the only place which is better but doesnt have north facing so it get hammered from the sun is Jackson Hole
post #16 of 25
If you're spending 4 weeks and going to a lot of different places, you need a rental car. Not just that it's 6 hours to Utah. Colorado itself has big distances. 2-3 hours north to Steamboat or 4 hours south to Telluride from I-70, and the I-70 resorts extend 3 hours from Aspen to Loveland. Plus I haven't a clue how you'll get to Moab without a car.

This is not the Alps. Distances are longer and public transit not nearly as good. Rent a car. Also with the car you'll have some flexibility to go where the snow is best once you arrive.
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by nogophers View Post
Give UT a shot (but skip Deer Valley because that really is like Summit County).
That's precisely my point! Why go to colorado when you can have it at Utah!!!

If one MUST ski Colorado, go to Aspen (or Telleride, or Creste Butte etc.). Much less crowds and better variety of terrain without having to fight for it.

Summit county maybe great for an extended weekend from the east coast. But if I have 4 weeks, I'd go to Utah + the better part of Colorado and leave Summit county to the weekenders (tourists and Denver locals alike).
post #18 of 25
I live in Colorado and ski around the state and in New Mexico, but I go to Utah every chance I get for two reasons, smaller crowds and consistently more and better snow.

I was on the chair at Alta one time and met a guy from Switzerland who was crashing at his cousin's place in Salt Lake City to ski for the season. I ask him why he came all the way over here to ski when he lived in the Alps, he just smiled and said "greatest snow on earth," which pretty much says it all.
post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by mudfoot View Post
I live in Colorado and ski around the state and in New Mexico, but I go to Utah every chance I get for two reasons, smaller crowds and consistently more and better snow.

I was on the chair at Alta one time and met a guy from Switzerland who was crashing at his cousin's place in Salt Lake City to ski for the season. I ask him why he came all the way over here to ski when he lived in the Alps, he just smiled and said "greatest snow on earth," which pretty much says it all.
I'd have to agree with that. I've skied and stayed at a lot of places. Statistically, Utah makes the most sense to me. After falling in love with Alta (with Snowbird next door) I'm pretty much sold on it.
post #20 of 25
Here we have someone with limited resources and considerable logistical challenges, that already has an Epic pass.

Would you pay hundreds of dollars to get from Colorado to Utah to ski, today?

It's not always better in Utah.

Jackie, I think waiting to make that decision until you are here, would be the prudent course of action.
post #21 of 25
Thread Starter 
Ok, we'll rely on the snow then... we did have a disastrous experience with rain in Whistler and having so many options at hand this time is something we should enjoy.. plus, I guess accommodation won't be a problem at all given the current global situation.

Tks a lot for the input, its really great to have your opinions! When it snows, Ill just think of the Swiss guy and head to SLC!



Jackie
post #22 of 25
Thread Starter 
We're coming to Deer Valley afterall, flying into SLC from DIA. It isnt really necessary to rent a car once we get to SlC, is it? Can we ski Deer Valley, Park City, Snowbird, LCC and Alta just with some type of shuttle or bus?

From the airport we'll get a shuttle, but are not sure about how we'll get around once we're there.

We should rent a car to drive to Moab and back, but that'll be only for 3 days. Tks

Looking forward to it!
Tks!

Jackie
post #23 of 25
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It isnt really necessary to rent a car once we get to SlC, is it? Can we ski Deer Valley, Park City, Snowbird, LCC and Alta just with some type of shuttle or bus?
It isn't "neccessary". But I'm not sure it'll be any cheaper.

The couple times I went to Park City, the cost of shuttles end up about the same as renting a car. And that's even WITHOUT going over the the Cottonwood Canyons.
post #24 of 25
Thread Starter 
Umm, makes sense. Thanks!
post #25 of 25
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It isn't "necessary". But I'm not sure it'll be any cheaper.
And a whole lot more convenient. More flexibility to decide each day where to go based on snow, conditions, crowds, etc.
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