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When you put skins on, do you take them off when going downhill for any distance. If you ski downhill with them on, does this change anything like feel, technique etc.

I was looking on EBay and they have a pair of BD Havocs, used grey and yellow (item 320318942865) no bindings but had them on, anyone comment on these. 173cm

The new Havocs I looked at the other day seemed to be pretty much what I might want/need. Don't know about these however except a lot cheaper.

No snow up here yet, only a dusting.
post #2 of 9
Yes, take the skins off for the ride down.
post #3 of 9
Pete

Yes, yes, and a fine ski for what you are looking for.

How is that for succinct?

Last Friday, I met a retired ADA from Sacramento who knew you, but I'll be darned if I can remember his name.
post #4 of 9
I think those might be perfect for you. Send the seller a message and ask if the bases and edges are in good shape. There's no way to tell from the listing.

You might also ask what binding WAS mounted on them and for what boot sole size. If they were mounted with Fritsches or Naxos and your boot sole length is similar to the seller's, you might not need any new binding holes.

Good find if the price stays right.
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Originally Posted by SkiMerlin View Post
Pete

Yes, yes, and a fine ski for what you are looking for.

How is that for succinct?

Last Friday, I met a retired ADA from Sacramento who knew you, but I'll be darned if I can remember his name.
Small world huh Dave. thanks for answer. I worked in the DA's office for about 1 and a half years
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
I think those might be perfect for you. Send the seller a message and ask if the bases and edges are in good shape. There's no way to tell from the listing.

You might also ask what binding WAS mounted on them and for what boot sole size. If they were mounted with Fritsches or Naxos and your boot sole length is similar to the seller's, you might not need any new binding holes.

Good find if the price stays right.

Thanks Bob, are these basically the same as the new ones? They were pretty light in weight, I'll ask. Thanks
post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post
Thanks Bob, are these basically the same as the new ones?
Different Bob, but no, the newer ones have a wood care - those are foam core, but same dimensions. Still, fine skis.

And FWIW, I have skied downhill for a ways on skins - it was a rare case of a narrow icy trail with a lot of hikers on it. Point being, it may be that you want a little help going slow and leaving the skins on can help.
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post
When you put skins on, do you take them off when going downhill for any distance. If you ski downhill with them on, does this change anything like feel, technique etc.
Pete,
I will sometimes leave skins on for a short downhill pitch or traverse. Don't plan on making any turns though. It is like skiing in the worst spring glue you can imagine. Also if you are going to slide for more than the shortest distance, I would recomend locking the heels down on Fritschi's. The hinge at the toe is the achilles tendon on these bindings, & can easily break if you twist wrong. I speak from experience .
JF
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Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post
Different Bob, but no, the newer ones have a wood care - those are foam core, but same dimensions. Still, fine skis.

And FWIW, I have skied downhill for a ways on skins - it was a rare case of a narrow icy trail with a lot of hikers on it. Point being, it may be that you want a little help going slow and leaving the skins on can help.
Thanks Bob

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Pete,
I will sometimes leave skins on for a short downhill pitch or traverse. Don't plan on making any turns though. It is like skiing in the worst spring glue you can imagine. Also if you are going to slide for more than the shortest distance, I would recomend locking the heels down on Fritschi's. The hinge at the toe is the achilles tendon on these bindings, & can easily break if you twist wrong. I speak from experience .
JF
Makes sense 4ster, didn't think of it that way but makes sense. thanks
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