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post #1 of 76
Thread Starter 
No, this is not about money.

I'd like to hear about the great tips you've gotten from other skiers, maybe instructors, and how it advanced you as a skier. Please tell who gave you the tip, if you are so inclined.

What got me to stop rotating my upper body into the turn was Jens Husted (of Sybervision fame and large dog of a legendary PSIA D-Team) asking me to imagine I had two red arrows painted down my thigh bones and to do nothing but point the arrows where I wanted to go. Poof! Upper body rotation needed no more.
post #2 of 76
I am really much too embarassed to admit that I did not figure this out for myself, but...
From Bob Peters: In flat light, ski closer to the edge of the trail.
post #3 of 76
"Complete your turn" told to me by many instructors, staff trainers, and my school director but you gave me the direct connection between my failure to do so and a visible flaw in my skiing backed up with video to illustate it. Thanx, nolo.

"Look at the space between the trees", a trueism repeated by many. Or as Joe, a patroller at Mad River said, "I've been skiing in the woods for years now and I've never seen a tree."
post #4 of 76
Start the turn in the same position you began the turn-Bob Barnes quoting Phil or Steve Mahre
post #5 of 76
Fall into the turn, something I was invited to do by Horst Abraham at a PSIA National Academy way too many years ago.
post #6 of 76
"Don't fight gravity- gravity always wins. Weight/extend in the fall line, unweight/release on traverses." -paraphrasing several coaches, including Lolly Moss, Clint Lentfer, and Michel Pratte.

"Chin up, eyes ahead" -an article I read in one of the ski mags this year.

"Put your bellybutton in front of your boots" -Lolly Moss.

"Use an open-hand pole plant instead of a closed plant" -Sparky Anderson.

"Wide stance, cowboy turns" -Lolly Moss and Michel Pratte.

...there's a bunch more that helped my skiing in various ways, but these in particular are going to be focal points early next season.
post #7 of 76
Thread Starter 
Alaska Mike,

Lolly Moss was one of my classmates in jr. high! We raced against each other in high school. (She was a lot better than me.) Glad to hear she's still coaching.

Please give her my regards.
post #8 of 76
don't remember who (probably lots of epic ski people)

"If you really want to accelerate your skiing advancement, Try Teaching"
post #9 of 76
"no, no, no, da feet phil, da feet .... now again you follow me"

"huh they think they can ski ya, lets go boys ... remember smile and you ... phil, outside ski yah, every turn no"

"what you think you call that .... SKIING, no, no, no, now we do not stop ... OKAY"

Franz Fuchsberger (international ski legend)

"softly, slowly, feel the snow, become the ski"

"now we try it backwards"

Joel Munn (ski instructor at large)

"go to Switzerland and practise every turn you make. Come back next year, sit the exam again and blow the bastards away"

Dave Alonzo (#1 SS director)

"philaysan you wear this tonight and ski like a european, feet together, velly important client, domo"

Hideto Inomata (Japanese ski instructor legend)

"fck em, can't keep up, talk too much, bloody one track career experts, smoke this, lets go"

SCSA (colorado ski nut)

"slow it up a notch, we don't work here anymore"

Fast Harry (Canberra family man ex ski patrol legend)

Somehow over time it just all blends together and becomes SKIING

post #10 of 76
Thread Starter 
Keep your elbows just slightly ahead of your torso. A tip a student shared after attending a ski week at Taos. Keeps arms and hands at the ready, improves posture, and keeps you moving into the future.
post #11 of 76
Bill, tip BOTH skis......BOTH skis....more.....more....exaggerate it..more..use your poles for balance....show me the bottom of your skis...great....that's it. So why don't you ski like that?
PSIA-E examiner
post #12 of 76
Milt Beens once told me to stand on my feet... down inside the boots. The goal was to stop levering on the tongue of the boot and be more skeletally aware, and also to give me a means to create a rounder turn shape. "Your boots/skis will hold you up if you just lean into the front of them... but don't be that lazy. Instead, stand on your feet and just allow the boots to be there if you need them!"

This allowed me to be waaaaay more active particularly in the Tipping/Edging realm. Every once in awhile I'll break that little gem out for some of my students when the the old "J-shaped" turn shows up.

Spag :

PS. oh yeah. Another easy one that I should have thought of myself! I was at Berthoud Pass in a clinic with Joe Webster and he told me to extend my pole swings way down the hill to help start a turn. Just by doing that, We were ripping these huge arcs down some wide steeps with really great edge angles high in the turn. WHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEE! I was squealing like a little girl. LOTTA FUN.

[ August 03, 2003, 07:21 AM: Message edited by: Notorious Spag ]
post #13 of 76
Relax and smile your having a good time,
by me.
post #14 of 76
Ya ok, it's crappy rainy Sunday afternoon and i'm bored, so I'm checking out the Board, wow!

Actually, a very good tip that i've mentioned before that sticks in my mind as one of the most important tip given to me by a very good bumper, Daryl Larson. And still a ski buddy from time to time. " don't ski with your toes scrunched up in your boots." Ski with them loose enough so you can wiggle them as you ski. Not only does this give you a better feel for the snow but relaxes your whole body and allows you to be fluid and absorb bumps better and become lighter in powder.
post #15 of 76
Heres one I hear people telling eachother all the time---

post #16 of 76
Keep both hands in sight at all times. (Several sources)
Take it to the mountain/dive down the mountain. (Jay Evans, Vail)
Don't rush your turns.
Hold inside foot back to reduce excessive tip lead. (Various sources)
"Left tip left to go left", etc. We all know where that comes from.

Many others - can't call them up at the moment.
post #17 of 76
"After skiing, and at lunch if available, Polygamy Porter". - WTFH
post #18 of 76
"I think you should ski with a boy ... someone stronger" (Monika - SSD's wife)
following on from a season of "You need to ski with someone else"
(Kerry Mueller -YHA manager - her hubby was an ex-instructor)

Made me get a change of instructor - which was about a season overdue... The 'boys' Monika replaced my instructor with were both awesome instructors & very patient...

"You have $10 worth of concentration - USE IT WISELY"
"Slowly - be patient"
"Hip forward"
"Keep the poles MOVING all the time"
"Feel the arch"
"When you run out of room to angulate - GO BACK" (Followed by a BIG talk about WHY I kept running out of angulation...) (OK I hate skiing ICE - clear stuff freaks me out)

Shayne Coomber - ski instructor

"FLOW down the hill"

Brett Plumridge - ski instructor

[ August 04, 2003, 03:39 AM: Message edited by: disski ]
post #19 of 76
...the fastest route to Merlins is NOT in the gondola. (Ralph - Extremely Canadian)

post #20 of 76
Mmmm Merlins ... spent many a drunken Friday night there downing some wierd Baileys mix & dancing on the tables to Guitar Doug.

Oh yeh, to be relevant to the thread:-

"The buckles are usually best on the ouside of your feet" from a fellow instructor to a pair of kids attending their first lesson.
post #21 of 76
Thread Starter 
Ask the skis for what you want from them the same as you would a horse--through pressure. --Jim Weiss, Lost Trail Powder Mtn.
post #22 of 76
"No, no, NO, you @#$%&*, do it like THIS! What are you, dense?"

- milesb
post #23 of 76
Must have been an Austrian.
post #24 of 76

it's a valley thing.

[ August 04, 2003, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #25 of 76
One I was told was: Lead with the inside knee.
post #26 of 76
Cute little technical hints don't magically transform average skiers into great skiers, there's only one way of making that journey and it's found in these words given to me by someone very special:

*** PRESS ON ***

Nothing in the would can take the place of persistence.

Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.

Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.

Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.

Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
post #27 of 76
I'll back that thought Fastman - I'm a great advertisement for some of the benefits of being stubborn as shit...

Totally uncoordinated, middle aged nerd.... No skill at all in physical area... yet I can now make a decent job of skiing when I get the head space together....

Not too bad so far for someone the resort doctor thought shouldn't ski because it was "too dangerous" for me...

(Sorry folks the ski school has had the staff out convincing me I CAN ski today )
post #28 of 76
Absolutely Disski, you are a prime example of the power of tenacious determination, and you occupy a position at the top of my respect meter. The driven to achieve mentality you possess is the character trait I strove to develop in every student in my program, for it is the one common denominator in every successful individual, no matter the focus of their pursuit. Show me someone who has come to realize their true potential in skiing and I will show you a person that has a solid grasp on achievement formula and is successful in any life endeavor they choose to engage.

The great thing I have seen repeated over and over is that when these achievement principles are fully employed the students preconceived potential limitations are often eclipsed and they go on to achieve things beyond what they initially envisioned possible. I'm sure you can attest to that also Disski.

For all those out there who have a lingering belief that higher skill plateaus are beyond your reach, you only need to look to the example set by Disski to shine a light on new possibilities and an outline for how to get there. More than you believe possible may dwell within your innate potential, but it does not come free.

[ August 06, 2003, 06:34 AM: Message edited by: FastMan ]
post #29 of 76
Cute Little Technical Hints can in fact make a vague concept suddenly tangible and immediately useable.

"Pretend you're driving a car" might not make the beginning skier "great," but it is huge as far as getting that skier to understand something - and experience the cause and effect of it - that is germane to his/her improvement.

An older guy a few Christmases ago had been watching me ski for awhile, he said when he caught up to me on the hill. He said he didn't want to seem like an ass but could he ski with me awhile and make a few suggestions. "Sure."
We went to some steeper terrain and ran laps on it. He kept stressing how crucial it was for me to keep my hands ahead and face down the hill. I finally got it and was beyond excited. It opened up a lot of terrain for me, and I could ski it more dynamically. And my tentativeness about steepness was erased. And what I was being told was not that different from pretend you're driving a car.

[ August 06, 2003, 07:28 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #30 of 76
Thread Starter 

I like to end the lesson with a casual chat about what's the take-away from the past couple of hours. It never ceases to amaze me how the same advice can strike one person and bounce off, whereas it hits another person and is absorbed as profound learning. I always learn a lot from those chats. Sometimes the person who's been closed and nonresponsive during the lesson enlightens me that today I said something that enabled her to grasp something that had been escaping her for a couple of years. She appears closed and nonresponsive because she's busy assimilating. Wow, glad I asked! My point is, sometimes you can't tell what's going on inside the person without asking. Sometimes the most casual, off-the-cuff comment is what carries the day.

My idea with this thread was to provide a fun, non-threatening question to which just about anyone could respond. I'll be the judge of how much fits into my ditty bag for next season.
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