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I am curious to find out how many of the coaches and instructors on this forum are also trainers in their school or PSIA division. ??

How does a person get elevated to that status in your school? Is there training for trainers? How are assignments doled out?

What is the process a Level III instructor goes through to be a division trainer? How are trainers selected to work?

My apologies if this is "old news."

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ February 03, 2002 01:05 PM: Message edited 1 time, by nolobolono ]</font>
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I'm one at my mountain. Our Tech director decides who the trainers are. Mostly, if you are level 3 cert, or close to it (level 2 for a while and working on L3), and express an interest in being a trainer, we invite you into the trainer's meetings and existing trainers will share clinic groups with you and sort of team teach clinic groups to better determine rediness.

Yes, we do training for the trainers. At a preseason meeting we decide the number, format and content of the mandatory clinics as well as elective clinics. Then, at the beginning of the season, we get on the hill together to go over it all again and firm up the content so that we know what the instructors are all getting the same info, and that we are leading by example.

A few seasons ago we tried giving out clinic assignments for the next week when we had our saturday meetings, as well as asking the instructors to sign up ahead of time. The problem was that our crowds, weather and availability are so subject to change, that it didn't work. So now we do it at line-up. We gather all of the instructos and trainers who didn't get work, determine what mandatory clinics that need to go out for the instructors to fulfill their obligations. If there are any instructors and trainers left over, we'll do elective or ad-hoc clinics, depending on everyones mood.

However, seasons like this (in the mid-atlantic) usually destroy the whole plan. Normally, we give the instructors a deadline date to have all of the mandatory clinics in (usually about 5 clinics).

This is all within our mountain, and has nothing to do with PSIA.
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I am a supervisor/trainer here at Mammoth Mtn. At Mammoth West (Main Lodge) Sports School, we have 10 Sup/trainers, who do probably 95% of the training. We are all PSIA level 3, and most of us are active in the certification process; clinician/examiner. Each of us has a "family" that we do are in charge of training. My "family" is all PSIA Level I, or the Aussie or Kiwi equivalent, and training for level 2. All of our instructors get 1 hour of paid training each day, unless they are booked with privates. Every day, we offer unpaid "day off clinics" from 10:30-12:30, and often from 2-4pm. These are quite popular, and usually really fun. Our exam pass rate is super high. Last year I had 15 people in my family, and 10 of them passed Level II, and three passed Level I, no fails. There are just a few instructors that do not have at least a I, most of the new guys did it last week. Until this year, you had to be at least level II to even work at adult ski school, but now, we are trying to have one big school, not totally seperate adults amd kids schools.

We actually have two "staff trainers" at Mammoth, one at each big lodge, but they are really just supervisors who are former or current PSIA Demonstration Team members. Our "Staff Trainer" is David Manetter, who spent 12 years on the D Team. At Canyon Lodge, Carl Unterkoffler (present D teamer) is the big cheese.

I taught at Mammoth Kids (Woollywood) for 4 seasons, and then became a supervisor. During that time, I mostly skied with high level kids classes, and all sorts of privates. I only taught two adult group lessons during those years, a First Timers class, and a Mammoth Masters class, but I did teach some high level adult pvts, mostly parents of kids in my classes. I came to Mammoth a fairly strong skier, with few bad habits, and passed all my exams by the end of my third season. This is actually fairly common here, we really train hard.

In addition to all of us PSIA guys, we also have Full certs from New Zealand, Australia, Austria, Switzerland, the UK, Etc... A pretty diverse bunch, and really fun.
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at Breck there are about 35 trainers. 1 Training Manager and 3 Pod Coordinators.

Want-to-be trainers have to attend specified clinics and attend and pass a selection (similar to a division selection). At that point the must be audited by a current trainer and submit clinic outlines for their first few clinics.

Clinic assignments are then doled out to clinicians who are available and determined to be qualified for the specific clinic.

We have morning 8:30 clinics. All-day clinics, special topic 2 day clinics, and impromptu clinics from line up.
For example, I am a clinic leader for an 8:30 clinic every wednesday, and am leading a Level 1, 2-day clinic on monday and tuesday this week.

Division Trainers go through a different process.
Level 3 cert ---- Trainer Accredited Selection (qualified trainers pool) ----- Division Clinic Leader Selection (DCL)---- Examiner.
TA is a division certified trainer, an instructor may then apply for a "job" with the division (a skiing selection (day 1) and an indoor interview (day 2) to become a DCL.

Best Regards,
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