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Those base layers with built in muscle support

post #1 of 13
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Hi:

Anybody try those things--they claim to fight fatigue and stabilize the knee--I saw a pair that cost $199--that a lot for long johns--but if the save your knee--its worth it--but tough to believe it, Anyone?
post #2 of 13
those better at least come with some magic beans
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post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by blitz View Post
Anyone?

Yes.

Gobs of threads on these, search on Skins (Australian), CW-X, Under Armour.

Old technology, really, there should be threads going back at least 5 years.

Expensive? Not cheap anyway, but neither is plain Lycra.

I'm kinda excited about compression socks, that's the up and coming thing.
post #5 of 13
My wife used them last year. She has knee problems and was able to ski longer and more comfortable with them, so she thinks they work. I plan on picking up some from SAC if I see them.
post #6 of 13

if you want knee compression wouldnt those neoprene things work better?

$200 for tights is a bit ridiculous
post #7 of 13

neoprene: clammy cold + bunches at joints + swamp butt (like trench foot but different) + $$

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$200 for tights is a bit ridiculous
Priced racing suits recently?
post #8 of 13
actually, being a swimmer isnt that bad, at least i can explain to you guys the concept of how these tights work because its basically the same type of suit that i wear at swim competitions (just that they only last about 3 competitions, each suit, and they are way more expensive than these ski tights mainly because of the highly hydrophobic molecular coating they have and the process that is used to mend the pieces of fabric, no more seems in fast swim suits)

YES!!!!, they do help, a lot. What they do is, they stop excess muscle vibrations which are the number one cause of muscle fatigue. this is achieved by the lycra's high tension in certain areas of the legs, as you will notice if you buy a pair. certain panels on the pants are tighter than others. They also help blood circulation, which helps deliver oxygen to your muscles and decreases the amount of lactic acid produced in your muscles because there is more oxygen available to burn in your muscles
So i would defiantly recommend them since they will last a long time, especially the higher quality ones and help increase your stamina throughout the day.
post #9 of 13
I used the cwx insulator last year and it helped fight fatigue in my legs knees ect.. I swear by them.. $115 by the way.. I'm going to buy two more pair for this years season...
post #10 of 13
+1 on the CW-X Insulators. They've got pants and shirt versions, both very well built. I use 'em for skiing and cold-weather biking alike. You can find good deals on SAC or backcountry every once in a while, or somewhere on eBay or Froogle. I got three of the shirts for $35 each, shipped, at the end of the season last year, and a pair of the pants for $50. Definitely worth it, and even if you don't believe in the compression base-layer thing, they're very comfy and keep me warm!
post #11 of 13
I would imagine you are referring to Opedix. They were developed here in Vail at the Steadman Clinic and they actually work as I was involved in some of the testing and we sell them at SRD. They are much more powerful than Skins as they are anchored to maintain tension and truly reduce the loading and displacement of the knee. Over a day, week, month, year of skiing it takes off tons of pressure. And they are warm.

Skins are more for muscle vibration control and stability as well as helping dissapate lactic acid. They are worn by many downhillers to stabalize muscle movement and vibration at speed- so they are well proven.

I have found both far superior to CWX or Under Armour.

Yea, expensive but then again so is everything!
post #12 of 13
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I would imagine you are referring to Opedix. They were developed here in Vail at the Steadman Clinic and they actually work as I was involved in some of the testing and we sell them at SRD. They are much more powerful than Skins as they are anchored to maintain tension and truly reduce the loading and displacement of the knee. Over a day, week, month, year of skiing it takes off tons of pressure. And they are warm.

Skins are more for muscle vibration control and stability as well as helping dissapate lactic acid. They are worn by many downhillers to stabalize muscle movement and vibration at speed- so they are well proven.

You would think someone would have had the bright idea of demoing their benefits on a Power Plate.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by blitz View Post
Hi:

Anybody try those things--they claim to fight fatigue and stabilize the knee--I saw a pair that cost $199--that a lot for long johns--but if the save your knee--its worth it--but tough to believe it, Anyone?
In an effort to keep my knees warm and the ligaments supple, plus give me a little support and protection, I got some neoprene sleeves for $12.95 at the super market. They were right next to the Dr. Scholls foot stuff in the pharmacy. They give me a little support and keep my knees from stiffening up on those long chair rides, or bump runs. I got turned on to them patrolling in Montana years ago and haven't skied without them in 25 years. I wear mine over my long underwear so I can pull them off before going to the bar or driving home. They literally steam when I take them off. You can get a smaller tighter size for more support and wear them on your skin like they are designed. Also great for kneeling in the snow or if your ski releases and wacks you in the other knee. If they don't have them at the pharmacy I'm sure you can pick them up at any sporting goods store. Warm ski knees are happy knees!
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