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Anyone ski the Atomic Doubledecks, D2 Vario Cut or D2 vario Flex?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Has anyone skied on the new Atomic D2s? I am very curious about peoples impressions.
post #2 of 19
Looking at your post history, you were a Atomic Mountain Rep, not the case any more?
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tried the vario cut last year. wasnt impressed.

apparently the production models are significantly improved. ill report back when i get a chance to give em a whirl
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yes, still a rep. Haven't gotten on a pair yet. Probably will ski the Vario Cut next week. I was just very curious about the lack of postings given what appears to be a very interesting development in ski technology.
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Who cares? What is the target market?
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What is the target market?
Media.
post #7 of 19
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Who cares? What is the target market?
Metron shoppers?
post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 
I have been skiing on the D2 Vario Cut with a 72 waist at a 170 length for the past several days.
I am about 200 lbs, 6 1 and a L3 PSIA Cert.
I had been skiing on the Metron B5s in a 172 for the last 3 years. I love those skis and feel that they do everything well.
The conditions have been variable out here in the East so I have different perspectives based on snow condition.
On hard snow or groomed snow the D2 Vario Cuts were excellent, easy to carve turns of varying radii, I felt like they had a very "snappy" short radius turn.
These skis are undoubtably best for someone with advanced skills who skis using a "modern ski" technique, the D2s in this waste size are a frontside carving ski.
On hard snow and ice they are confidence inspiring with great edge grip. They are stable at high speeds, I was somewhat concerned being on a 170 but they held very well at speed.

The skis definitely did not like slower speed "ski school maneuvers" that required skidding (a real chore on these) but no one would be buying these skis for that kind of stuff.

In variable conditions such as going from piles of sugar to hardpack these skis require your undivided attention and were not "easy" to ski, I am used to B5s that could basically blast thru that stuff.

I have not had the opportunity to ski these skis in deeper softer snow or in bumps, I would venture to guess that they will be fine in bumps but with a 72 waist aren't made for deep snow.

To summarize the D2 technology clearly works, you can feel clean edge engagement in turns of varying radii with good energy coming out of turns without much effort, varying snow conditions require more effort
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Do you feel its beter than the B5? A buddy skied the D2 today and said it was like you said but thought it was pretty good in 20cm fresh light pow also? Great for making high speed cuts on the groomed. I love the B9 in Powder havent tried the B5 might take a pair out this weekend going to demo some skis. I realy think the Nomad CrimsonTI will be hard to beat though.
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Do you feel its beter than the B5? A buddy skied the D2 today and said it was like you said but thought it was pretty good in 20cm fresh light pow also? Great for making high speed cuts on the groomed. I love the B9 in Powder havent tried the B5 might take a pair out this weekend going to demo some skis. I realy think the Nomad CrimsonTI will be hard to beat though.
I skied the Nomad Crimson (Non Ti) last week.

Head i.m88 blows it out of the water. The Head is smoother, has equal or better edge grip and was much less jarring. Every imperfection in the snow was amplified through the Nomad and I would assume the Ti being stiffer is worse.

What was amplified through the Nomad was absorbed and dissipated by the Monster!

I also noticed a great eal of tip deflection withe the Nomad in chopped up snow and small bumps that is just not present with the i.M88.

the Nomad had the factory tune. The Head was tuned (by me) to a 1/3 degree also.

Before you buy a Nomad, Demo the Monster 88

By the way, I own the Metron B5 in a 162 and also had a pair of 172cm. Was a great ski!
post #11 of 19
D2 vario flex is fgreat the vario cut was dissapointing to say the least...and watching a member of atomic staff being jettisoned out the front having landed after a little air and the ski dug in and changed its radius was most amusing
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My question is what will happen when a core shot or other damage occurs to the vario flex part of the base? Even if the skied well, I'd be skeptical of how they'll hold up. Sorry to go a bit OT.
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Skied on the double deck @ Okemo last month. Had a very damp feel to it. Snow was kind of soft so didn't really utilize the strength of the ski. Hardpack/ice would have been interesting to ski on, can imagine tons of confidence. The double deck I believe was 175 with a very generic white topsheet. A small group of Okemo instructors saw what we were skiing on and came flying up to us looking to get on some double decks. The skis I really liked that day were the Crimson Ti and MetronB5.
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I'm not able to get the Double Deck on the website to come up when I click on it. All other ski categories listed when clicked come up. Anybody else having this problem on the Atomic website?
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to the metron b5 contingent:

I learned modern technique on these a few years ago. A heavy stiff ski. I find that it sinks in powder and has very little 'spring' When you dont know what's coming (powder) I get scared - It makes lemonade the second it gets a lemon - not vedry forgiving. What would be a good ski to add to the quiver for eastern powder and crud?

k2 explorer? gotama? mantra? monster im88?
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I'm not able to get the Double Deck on the website to come up when I click on it. All other ski categories listed when clicked come up. Anybody else having this problem on the Atomic website?

RLY? There's a cutesie little robo movie too.

http://www.atomicsnow.com/doubledeck.../D2-Vario-Cut/
post #17 of 19
A friend brought along a demo version of the vario cuts here in Australia last season (170 or 172cm - thereabouts) and had the same revelation. In predictable terrain the skis carved quite happily, but in chopped up snow and/or unpredictable snow conditions they were liable to tighten up their turn without notice. Quite a handful.

On another note, I prompty designated the skis the Atomic "Camel Toe", which seemed to suit them perfectly
post #18 of 19
I hand flexed these in a store....they look and feel like garbage
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Hi all,

I have spent alot of time now on the Dual Flex (82mm) in a 174 and find it exceptional in: Powder, Crud, Hard pack and the best I have ever tried on ice/hard pack.

This ski is lively and quick turning for a 17 m radius.

Can't wait until the next years 13m radius Dual Flex comes out!

 

Phil

 

 

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