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Glove Dilemma, Please Help

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Hey Everyone,

I'm looking into buying a new pair of gloves and I've got it narrowed down to two choices, but I was curious to see if anyone on here has tried either so that I could get some direct input. I generally ski in either NH or VT in some pretty cold temps, and have had poor circulation in my hands for as long as I remember. Because of this, I've narrowed my selection down to the Marmot Ultimate Ski Glove and the Hestra Gore-Tex XCR Glove. Any chance any of you folks have some advice on which way to go?

Marmot Ultimate Ski Glove vs Hestra Gore-Tex XCR Glove

Thanks Much.

-Kessler
post #2 of 24
the hestras always seem short in the finger length. maybe they are going for this to keep more hand in the glove for more warmth?

both are great, go for the best fit on YOUR hand
post #3 of 24
I own both and they are both very well made.. IMO Hestra's are the best gloves out there.. The hestra's fit my hand better than the marmot.. You should try them on BEFORE you purchase.. Swany is also a very well made glove, I used it alot last year and they kept me warm in temps below 15... Happy hunting
post #4 of 24
+1 on Hestra. I love mine (heli)...best gloves I've ever owned.
post #5 of 24
Search and you'll find plenty of comments on both here. Before you do the XCR or the Marmot Ultimate, consider the regular Heli - which has a removable liner. This is handy for drying things out overnight. And for 18 bucks you can pack a spare liner.

As long as they fit your hand, you are likely to be happy with a high end Marmot or Hestra.
post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by 1SDSKIER View Post
I own both and they are both very well made.. IMO Hestra's are the best gloves out there.. The hestra's fit my hand better than the marmot.. You should try them on BEFORE you purchase.. Swany is also a very well made glove, I used it alot last year and they kept me warm in temps below 15... Happy hunting
Will definitely be looking to try them on before buying, but as someone who's already used both, have you found one to be warmer than the other in the colder temps?

And thanks everyone for the quick replies, much appreciated.
post #7 of 24
I have both and find them very similar for warmth. I like removable liners though. Have you though about the chemical heat packs on really cold days?
post #8 of 24
Either way, get them big enough. I've found through years of experience that gloves with a little air room in them are much warmer than gloves that fit "like a glove" - aka snug.
post #9 of 24
I prefer hestras, a couple of advantages, 1- excellent dexterity 2- great customer service, 3- they wear like iron, just getting softer and more comfortable
post #10 of 24
I have the Hestra you're interested in, not that impressed. Yes, all that old world craftsmanship, nice that they won't fall off the lift, blah blah, but doesn't help the tips of my fingers on even a moderately cold day. A real waste of money. I think mntlion's right here; the fingers seem to run short for the recommended size, also noticed that the insulation seems to run out just before the end, so just leather at the tip.
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
I have the Hestra you're interested in, not that impressed. Yes, all that old world craftsmanship, nice that they won't fall off the lift, blah blah, but doesn't help the tips of my fingers on even a moderately cold day. A real waste of money. I think mntlion's right here; the fingers seem to run short for the recommended size, also noticed that the insulation seems to run out just before the end, so just leather at the tip.
I'm more or less of the same opinion on the Hestra

Pros: great dexterity, good fit for my hand, soft

Cons: not as warm as my swanys and the lack of a nose wipe (which sounds minor, but is a nice feature found on most other high end gloves)
post #12 of 24
this may seem obvious, but are you sure your gloves aren't too small? if your fingertips touch, they are too small....
post #13 of 24
Hestras are great gloves when temps are above 35 or so degrees. They are very well made and fit me great. However, when it's fairly cold out, I always use my Marmot "Work Gloves". Marmots have always been my choice for cold weather and I would have opted for the "Ultimate Ski Glove" but they are too bulky and I don't care much for the gauntlet.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
this may seem obvious, but are you sure your gloves aren't too small? if your fingertips touch, they are too small....
In my case, numerical size (and various put-your-hand-on-this-outline's) translates to a large, which is my usual size, and none of the fingers touch at the ends. What I meant is that my fingers are further along the shaft than usual. If that makes any sense. My palm and thumb would swim in next size up. Maybe it's like shoe lasts, my hand doesn't fit their shape...

Ironically, my last gloves also were Swany's, toasty. So maybe fleece works better than primaloft... #2
post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by Kessler View Post
Hey Everyone,

I'm looking into buying a new pair of gloves and I've got it narrowed down to two choices, but I was curious to see if anyone on here has tried either so that I could get some direct input. I generally ski in either NH or VT in some pretty cold temps, and have had poor circulation in my hands for as long as I remember. Because of this, I've narrowed my selection down to the Marmot Ultimate Ski Glove and the Hestra Gore-Tex XCR Glove. Any chance any of you folks have some advice on which way to go?

Marmot Ultimate Ski Glove vs Hestra Gore-Tex XCR Glove

Thanks Much.

-Kessler
I got Hestra three finger heli gloves from BC with 20%. I hope these are warm. I will let you know. My Scott t-32 do not cut it anymore, but I love the feel of these.
post #16 of 24
I like my Hestras too. My personal favorites are a pair of Burton RPM leather gloves from last year or the year before. They are much warmer and just as well made, and they are also cheaper. I bought a pair of Kinco's ski gloves last year. I think I paid $10 including shipping. They are pretty toasty and can be waterproof with the appropriate spray.
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
In my case, numerical size (and various put-your-hand-on-this-outline's) translates to a large, which is my usual size, and none of the fingers touch at the ends. What I meant is that my fingers are further along the shaft than usual. If that makes any sense. My palm and thumb would swim in next size up. Maybe it's like shoe lasts, my hand doesn't fit their shape...

Ironically, my last gloves also were Swany's, toasty. So maybe fleece works better than primaloft... #2
I wear a size 10. My "normal" size is a large. They do run a bit off the typical glove, maybe it's just a matter of them not fitter your hand well. I swear by them and find them incredibly warm and bombproof. I do have a pair of leather swany's. THey are also warm but the dexterity is terrible. Agian, this may be that Swany's just don't fit my hand well. We should really be drinking a beer over discussions like this!
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
In my case, numerical size (and various put-your-hand-on-this-outline's) translates to a large, which is my usual size, and none of the fingers touch at the ends.
? Hestra's come in numeric sizes.

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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
What I meant is that my fingers are further along the shaft than usual.
Be careful where you mention this!

CJ
post #19 of 24
http://www.hestrausa.com/sizing_guide.pdf it does say you should have at least a 1/4 inch at the top of each finger

hestra sizing chart
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by Puck it View Post
I got Hestra three finger heli gloves from BC with 20%. I hope these are warm. I will let you know. My Scott t-32 do not cut it anymore, but I love the feel of these.
2x, just go these this summer for cold days but still have use of thumb and forefinger
post #21 of 24
FWIW, I've used my Hestra Helis in very cold temps and they kept my hands plenty warm, but I don't generally get cold easily I suppose.

re sizing: I wear a 9 and I'm usually right on the edge of M and L with most gloves with a lean towards M.
post #22 of 24
Thread Starter 
Again, thanks to everyone for all the input. It's been very helpful, and I've definitely got a bit more to think about now. I'll be heading to the Boston Snowsports Expo this weekend, so I'm hoping to find both brands there to actually try on and compare. I'll probably end up looking at some Swany and/or Burton gloves as well if I can find them too thanks to the glowing reviews of those brands. Wish me and my damn non-circulative fingers luck.
post #23 of 24
I have bad circulation as well, and I'm a ski pro, so I'm not always movin'. Every year, I also buy a box of 'Hand Warmers'. I've had all of the brands mentioned above...here's my .02:

The AK Burton Oven Mitt is my warmest, with down and PrimaLoft insulation. They have lots of dexterity, but they're a mitt.

Hestra XCR. Love them. (A men's large would be a size 10.) I have a pair of Hestra spring gloves and a pair of Guide gloves with a removable wool pile liner...it's amazing how warm the Guide gloves are...I guess it's that wool thing!

I've had four pairs of Marmot Randonee gloves. (I get them 40% off retail at work.) They wore out quickly and they were never very warm. Perfect for typical Tahoe weather though. Haven't tried the Marmot Ultimate, but I'd be leary.

I've also had Swany gloves and mitts over the years. They were warmer than any of my Marmots, but as posted above, the dexterity was horrible. (They were given to me! Free is good.)

So...I'd say if the Hestra fits...go with the Hestra. Especially since the Marmot Ultimate Ski Glove and the Hestra Gore-Tex XCR Glove are similar in price.
post #24 of 24
Sorry, I accidentally hit the reply again.
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