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Lange cuff adjustment

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
My wife has the Lange CRL90W, which have a small bolt (allen head) in the achilles heel area at the back of the cuff, This, I presume, is for fore-and-aft cuff adjustment. A ski shop salesman recently told me that this bolt basically locks the cuff, and should be removed to allow the boot to have greater forward flex.

Can anyone confirm this? Is this a good idea to take it out and leave it out?

Thanks in advance....
post #2 of 13
Do not take the bolt out. This is a common - and incorrect - approach to 'soften' the boot. It is there for a reason, to link the upper and lower cuff together in order to store energy and create rebound. If you remove it, the boot will flex 'easier', but lose some of its spring and feel.
post #3 of 13
removing the screw is a nice way to feel a softer boot. Ski it a with and without. If you like the softer feel then see a boot fitter about making it that way for good.
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys! I suppose I should clarify a bit....the reason behind my question was that my wife is looking for a bit more forward lean in her boots to achieve a greater range of fore-aft motion, balance, weight distribution over the ski. She does not necessarily want to soften the boot, esp. not laterally.

She skis on Head Supershape Speeds, which have the Freeflex 14 binding set in the factory position. These are not exactly the most agile, easy-going skis on the hill, and she is looking to make them a bit more responsive, without sacrificing stability and edge hold. Don't get me wrong -- she loves these skis and wouldn't trade 'em for the world. She just wants to make a good thing even better.

We are going to try moving the binding forward to the CRS position, to see if that helps make the skis a bit more agile and helping with turn initiation. But we were also curious to see if something could be done with the boots...hence my question.

Regarding this bolt, other than fixing the cuff in place, is there any fore-aft adjustment possible with it? From my cursory look at it, it appears that there are only two options -- locked (bolt in) and unlocked (bolt out).

Any further insight would be most welcome.
post #5 of 13
SGN, A simple spoiler shim will increase forward lean.

An evaluation and modification of other fore/aft parameter settings may yield a more favorable result? ramp, delta?

For a clearer understanding of these parameters check out http://www.snowind.com and click on boot fitting.
post #6 of 13
Softening the boot may make it flex further but possibly not as the range may be set by your wife's normal range of motion. Either way I would say it will have no affect on the ski feel. Bending the boot more is not the way to get ski response. It only moves you further from a balanced position.

Bud is on the right track. Look at binding position and look at ramp and delta. The answer is in there somewhere.

post #7 of 13
Strongly agree with Matt, disconnecting the the upper cuff, from the lower shell via cuff bolts is bad ju ju.

Also agree with Bud/Lou, looking at forward lean to increase "range of motion" is counter intuitive, and is probably not the right approach to gain ROM or better balance in your wife's skiing.

Has she taken a lesson recently? A session with a good trainer that understands alignment, balance, and ski tecnique could go a long way in sussing out were the work should take place. Tecnique/tactics, equipment, or physical fitness are all a part of the puzzle.

post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice guys!

Jim - yes, she has taken a lesson near the end of last season. All was great, except for getting her body a wee bit more forward. This may be more a matter of technique rather than a shortcoming in the boots, but hey, it was worth asking about. She is in excellent shape, a strong skier, and an expert skater too.

We'll try one thing at a time, and then see how things go. Sounds like the bindings are the best place to start. And if the forward lean still needs work after her working on better technique, then we can see about shims and ramp and all that jazz.

Thanks again....
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
jdistefa -- do you work at a ski shop at Blue? We ski there several times a week (we live in Caledon). It would be good to have a resource like you to visit and get fitted when it comes time for new boots (maybe this year for me....)
post #10 of 13

I work very part-time at Squire Johns. We're trying a program this year that integrates on-hill alignment analysis, video, and coaching (with yours truly). You can call Shane Kilfoyle (owner) at Squires if interested, 705.445.1130

Skiing at Blue midweek would be perfect .

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hey Matt,
Sounds interesting. I'll send you a PM tomorrow and you can fill me in on what that's all about.

post #12 of 13
Would be very interested if you could post results here of sessions with Matt.

post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 
Lou, I'll certainly do that. Not sure if I'll need new boots or not this season...I'll be on new skis that I've not yet "road tested" -- the Head SS Speed. My boots (Tecnica Rival X9) may not be stiff enough for these, as the skis are a significant step up in performance to my previous skis. I'll get a few days in on the slopes to see if the combo is working, but if not, I'm sure to call Matt. His program sounds interesting, and a very thorough and sensible way to get a good fit. I'll let you know what happens....
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