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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
we are looking to do a trip out west from feb and was wondering if the locals can fill in some of the gaps for me for a party of 10 or so ppl for a week.

requirements:
we are looking for a house that can house ~10ppl but there are also some maybe's on our list so potentially this can grow to 12-13.

we are looking to ski for 2-3days and then rest by visiting yellowstone



edit:
also have to add that we are poor and cheap so need the best bang for the buck

questions:
1: which area would make sense for us to look for a house if we are looking to spend ~50/person/night in terms of lodging?

2a: is yellowstone national park within reasonable driving distance for a 2 days worth of trip?? i'm not looking for a 5+hr drive each day just to get to the national park

2b: not so ski related but where should we be looking to visit in yellowstone?

3: cheap lift ticket options??
from my reasearch so far i can't seem to bring to cost lower than 100/person for teton village but it'll be much cheaper in jackson, WY. downside is taht jackson seems a bit south from all the attractions so would it make sense for us to visit yellowstone national park during our stay?? your recs and exp much appreciated.
post #2 of 25
I'll let others to answer your ski questions.

About Yellowstone, the roads are close. Only "snow couch" can get you into the park. It's a pretty expensive trip.
post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 
that's very good info. i wasn't careful enough to read that this may put the yellowstone visit on the back burner for a bit
post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
have to add:
our initial plans are to spend a few days in utah first before driving to jacksonhole to finish up the trip (driving back to utah for flight home). overall utah plane tix from the east coast just seems a bit cheaper as well trying to relive my awesome alta day from last season.
post #5 of 25
at $50/pp I think you are going to have a really tough time find accomodation in a house. On the other hand, the Hostel X is about $70/night per room. Many of them have 4 bunk beds. So, depending on availability and the number of folk you are willing to put in a room, that might fit the bill.

Mike
post #6 of 25
Looks like the Hostelx raised their rates -- now are $119/night. Still likely to be a good deal, especially as it is 100 yards from the tram.

Mike
post #7 of 25

you need a rental agent

In general locals don't have much inside info on rentals or hotels. You need a travel agent or a rental agent. Most likely no deals but you never know. If you have a car you can stay in town and have considerably lower rates than the village. The Virginian Lodge, (really a huge motel with bar and cafe) should have rooms with two beds for under a $100 a night. In general Presidents day weekend is a big weekend and it might be higher. You need reservations for that weekend pretty soon.

Then again it might not snow, global warming etc.
post #8 of 25
why are you going to JH. why not stay in SLC. it will much cheaper.
post #9 of 25
Thread Starter 
i did slc last season and would like to check out JH this year. i was really hoping to do yellowstone and JH together but now that it seems out of the question i'm thinking about just spending 3-4 days in JH to say i've done it.

overall is LSC better than JH??
post #10 of 25
If you look at the beginning of the JH Gathering thread (the discussion one, not the roll-call) there are links to several reservation resources.

I also noticed a JH vacation link in the ads on the right recently.

Early Feb till just before Pres weekend appears to be considered "low season" for rate purposes.
post #11 of 25
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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post
Looks like the Hostelx raised their rates -- now are $119/night. Still likely to be a good deal, especially as it is 100 yards from the tram.

Mike
You can almost get a room at the Best Western for that price. Are they serious?!!!
post #12 of 25
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You can almost get a room at the Best Western for that price. Are they serious?!!!
New owners.

Speaking of which, this may well be proof there is a God or karma exists or whatever.

The Hostelx was founded by a wonderful guy whose two sons inherited it when he passed on. The two sons were raised in the Hostel and are outstanding people who have been a great asset to the Jackson community (one of them was one of the co-founders of the JH Air Force).

The sons decided after years and years of offers that last winter it was time to actually sell the place. I believe the sale closed right around the first of last April.

I don't know the buyers, but the "rumor" is that they are developers who coveted the location of the Hostel but definitely not the business. The plan was to knock the place down and build a condo hotel similar to the Teton Mountain Lodge and Hotel Terra that have been erected next to the Hostel.

So less than four months after the sale closes, financial markets fall off a cliff, financing is vaporized, and the speculators who buy the condos during construction hoping to flip at a profit before the new place even opens its doors have all run for the hills (or gone bankrupt).

It's no wonder that the new owners need to raise the rates.
post #13 of 25
But back to the original post...

I don't think there is such a thing as a condo/house that would sleep 12 for an average of $50/night. All of the four and five-bedroom houses (or condos) that I know of are renting for a minimum of $900 to $1400/night and that would not include any sort of lift tickets.

The rumor around town is that bookings for this coming winter are down substantially here like everywhere else. You MIGHT be able to work a deal if you make an early reservation, so it's maybe worth a try.

The two property management places that do most of the work with larger condos and houses are Jackson Hole Resort Lodging and Rendezvous Mountain Rentals. Google will find each of them for you.

And the question comes up continually on Epic about discount lift tickets. There are no discounts to be found on lift tickets at Teton Village beyond the multi-day discounts on the Jackson Hole Mountain Resort (www.jacksonhole.com) website or on the lifts/lodging packages that several outfits offer. Standalone lift ticket "deals" just don't exist here.

Good luck with the search.
post #14 of 25
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
New owners.

Speaking of which, this may well be proof there is a God or karma exists or whatever.

The Hostelx was founded by a wonderful guy whose two sons inherited it when he passed on. The two sons were raised in the Hostel and are outstanding people who have been a great asset to the Jackson community (one of them was one of the co-founders of the JH Air Force).

The sons decided after years and years of offers that last winter it was time to actually sell the place. I believe the sale closed right around the first of last April.

I don't know the buyers, but the "rumor" is that they are developers who coveted the location of the Hostel but definitely not the business. The plan was to knock the place down and build a condo hotel similar to the Teton Mountain Lodge and Hotel Terra that have been erected next to the Hostel.

So less than four months after the sale closes, financial markets fall off a cliff, financing is vaporized, and the speculators who buy the condos during construction hoping to flip at a profit before the new place even opens its doors have all run for the hills (or gone bankrupt).

It's no wonder that the new owners need to raise the rates.

They are absolutely ludicrous to think they can get that kind of money. I just did a quick search and the hostel is $20 less a night then the Best Western during my stay.

I hope they go bankrupt. The one time I've been to Jackson I stayed there and enjoyed every minute of it but I wasn't paying over $120 a night.
post #15 of 25
I think your best bet would be a couple of two bedroom/sofabed condos in Jackson. They do exist, Snow King has a bunch.

At Teton Village a 2BR/sofabed Ten Sleep or Gros Ventre condos can sleep 6. 1BR/sofabed can sleep 4. . They are pretty old but not bad and well located....should be close to $50/person as long as it's not a holiday.

good luck
post #16 of 25
Thread Starter 
this is sort of a side question. given that you are going to ski a total of 5 days between utah and jacksonhole, how would you divide up the days?? how many in utah and how many in jacksonhole???

tx
post #17 of 25
Having skied both UT and JH I would do one or the other for 5 days. Either that or add another 5 to your trip.
post #18 of 25
I was ferreting around looking at JH lift tickets last night, my goodness they are pricey. Have to get used to paying for tickets again.
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
how much were the JH tickets?? utah was ~54/ticket through a local sports shop
post #20 of 25
well, unless I was mis-reading it, it was $87 for a day ticket! I fainted briefly.

What Utah tickets were $54, sapient? I'll be staying with a friend in PC for most of my trip, so I'll be hunting for ticket deals everywhere. Sigh!
post #21 of 25
Thread Starter 
i went to canyon sports last yr to pick them up
http://www.canyonsports.com/
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by ant View Post
well, unless I was mis-reading it, it was $87 for a day ticket! I fainted briefly.

What Utah tickets were $54, sapient? I'll be staying with a friend in PC for most of my trip, so I'll be hunting for ticket deals everywhere. Sigh!
Ant, I believe your PSIA card will get you at least a moderate discount at JH. Call the SSD ahead of time to ask. You can pm me for his name if you'd like.
post #23 of 25
Thanks Bob, I will try that. Really looking forward to skiing there, something I've always wanted to do. And the town looks gorgeous.
post #24 of 25
A couple of other things you might like to do, non-skiing.

1. Take the sleigh ride on the elk refuge.
2. Go for a ski tour in Grand Teton National Park.
3. Head to Old Faithful in Yellowstone by snow coach.

Mike
post #25 of 25
Thread Starter 
tx for the advice mike. we are going with a rather large group (~10 ppl) so i'd imagine we'll need to split up to tackle any of the events. that sleigh ride sounds like a great idea tho. I'm not sure about ski touring since we'll be only able to do these events on our rest day i'll be on the ground moaning in pain if it's too hard core.


another side note: is snowmobiling a lot of work on the body?? once again i'm looking for laid back activities on those days.

tx
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