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Looking for new plug boot

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I am looking for new plug boots. There are no shops in my area that have them in stock. Can anyone recommend the shop within reasonable driving distance of Vail/Beaver Creek area where I can find these to try them on and a good boot fitter to work on them? I'll be there for a couple of weeks during Xmas-New Year.

Thanks.
post #2 of 15
we have 'em
post #3 of 15
Fairly certain Greg is within driving distance of Vail.
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
I'll be happy to stop by your store once I am in the area. Where are you located? What's the store name?

Thanks.
post #5 of 15
Stoller, Greg's shop Ski Boot Fitting, Inc in Vail is listed along with phone number, email, website address in the Bootfitter's Who's Who sticky at the top of the forum. Be sure to schedule an appointment ahead of your trip.

As far as Greg being an easy drive from Vail, I'm not so sure. It would probably be better to use a lift (chair 4).
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
I have no problem taking tha chair, even on my day off. Thanks to epic pass.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
How do you choose the right brand of the plug boot? Does the brand matters at all, since the boot gets grinded to your feet?
post #8 of 15
How do you choose the right brand of plug boot? By letting your boot fitter advise you.

Lou
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
I do not have a bootfitter in my area who routinely works with plugs. I have very small foot and my boot will have to be special ordered. In addition, I have pro discounts from manufacturers therefore I need to buy a boot and bring it with me on my visit to Vail to fit. I currently ski in 2005 Lange 150, but Lange has changed the last and I am not sure whether it is still the right brand for me.
Therefore, I cannot go the most logical route to have my bootfitter to choose me my boots. Here is my question again: "How do you choose the right brand of the plug boot? Does the brand matters at all, since the boot gets grinded to your feet?"
Please advise.
post #10 of 15
PLug boots like all other boots still have a different internal shape. So yes some will fit you better than others and to determine which is best they must be tried on. They also have different ramp, forward lean and cuff angles that may be factors.

Understand your predicament but don't see how it is possible to guarantee success by simply purchasing at pro discount at not checking fit.

Lou
post #11 of 15
Most shops that stock plug boots have them available to qualified professionals at a pro/racer price.

Only a small percent of these boots get sold to retail customers.
It takes a fair leap of faith to buy a boot that is somewhat unwearable out of the box.

Of the current 3 or 4 top boots on the WC it is easier to count the similarities than the differences in design.

What makes one work better than another is generally the way it is prepared, not the color of the plastic.

Choose the fitter and let them help pick the boot. I have known
Greg for many years and would recommend him highly.

If you are legitimately entitled to a professional rate I would assume you will receive it.

jl
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thank you for answering my questions. I definitely would love the opportunity to try on the boots before investing the money. I just was not able to do it before. And I have no illusions regarding plug boots fitting me right out of the box.
I will definitely make sure to contact Greg once I will know my schedule as I am driving to Vail and it is somewhat flexible.
post #13 of 15
Not certain about Vail's flexibility, but your approach will work.
post #14 of 15
Stroller,

Just for clarity, "plug" boots are not built to be ground to fit, they are built to transfer energy to the ski in the most powerful dynamic way.

You keep refering to plugs like they are square blocks of of plastic that get custom ground to your feet. As Lou stated that is not the case. Each true race "plug" has its own unique shape or last that fits some feet better than others. This is the same as shopping for any good fitting ski boot. You start out with a selection of models and narrow your choice down to the one that feels closest to your foot and leg shape. You also need to consider shell shape angles and flex as most race boots take permenent fixes to adjust shell height, forward lean, and flex.

Depending on your foot shape and size, there may be "plug" boots that you slide on your foot and ski without pain or suffering from day one. There may also be choices that you make that need multiple punches or grinds to get them to work. This will be between you and your most excellent bootfitter.

We carry race boots from every major supplier, in every size, in every flex. Contact me directly by PM for more information. We can arrange to have boots waiting for you at Greg H's.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Lou, my flexibility is leaving early in the morning on Friday the 19th of December and getting to Vail area early in the day on Saturday, if kids can skip school - will be in Vail in around noon. As there will be no skiing on Saturday for me, I may as well visit Greg. If kids have to be in school on Friday, then I will not make it to Vail until late in the evening on Saturday and I will have to pick another day for boot fitting. I will not know that untill close to my vacation time, so do not want to be scheduling anything so far in advance.

Starthous,
I understand the reason of plugs being what they are. In my understanding "they are built to transfer energy to the ski in the most powerful dynamic way" is the result, on major part, of very close fit to the skiers foot and leg. My "refering to plugs like they are square blocks of plastic that get custom ground to your feet" is exactly what I thought, and this is the reason for my posting these questions here. My current boots had to be adjusted in terms of cuff angle, flex, etc., they also had to be punched. On the other hand my heels are so narrow that none of the non-plugs worked for me - they were just huge and gave me no support at all, but no work had to be done to the rear part of the plugs.
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