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What would Plake do?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Hello, this is my first post in my quest for ski information. Skiing is ever evolving in my life and as of late I am seeking out new and fun things to do. I am 26 years old and spent a good portion of my skiing life at Alta with some of the best instructors I have ever met. I remember skiing with Mike Hatrup(spelling?), at the time he was a K2 guy along with Plake. This really influenced my skiing style and choices. After watching some recent footage of Plake still skiing on very long skis and puchasing Hot Dog the movie I am discovering a whole new world.

After spending the latter end of last season bruised (a first in 10 yeares) from falling so much trying some ski balet moves on my 178cm AC3's I was wondering if anyone could reccomed a better choice of skis.

After watching Plake ski moguls on some newer 200+ skis I was thinking I might give it a try. I was also wondering if anyone had any advise on ski choices for this task. I was hoping to just make a switch to abnormally long skis for a while and see if I like it. I honestly miss my long strait Solomon Equips.

Thank you, any advice would be helpful.
Ivan
post #2 of 23
WWPD? I have three words for you..Two Two Three
post #3 of 23
I've skied with Plake (more like skied on the same run as Plake at the same time), and he is a ton of fun. And "Blizzard" is one of my all-time favorite ski movies.

If you really want to get into that old school ski ballet stuff, didn't those guys ski on really short, noodly skis, like 140s?

Your 178 AC3s should do nicely for you for most of your skiing...unless you really want to get into ski ballet seriously (seriously?).

Go find ye a good ol' ski swap....'tis the season. For $5 you should find some nice 30 year old Hart or Olin 140s.

Or ask some guy in your town if he would donate a piece of his ski fence

Fly your flag, man. Enjoy!
post #4 of 23
Thread Starter 
If I could find some 223's I would certainly give it a try. I am currently looking at some SG's in the 205-215 range. I only do ballet when the conditions are poor and/or I am in a flat spot (or skiing with family).
post #5 of 23
With as far as ski technology has come, I don't now WHY you'd want to ski something that long... With that said, I spent the day watching older ski porn with guys on straight boards. I did get a little twinge of nostalgia, but not enough to want to take two steps backward in ski progression.

If it floats your boat though, go for it!
post #6 of 23
I've got a pair of 215cm Research Dynamics (made by Atomic) Super G skis. They're in excellent+ condition and have Salomon race-something bindings.

They're yours for zero dollars if you pay the shipping.

That should be Plake enough for pretty much anybody.
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
I've got a pair of 215cm Research Dynamics (made by Atomic) Super G skis. They're in excellent+ condition and have Salomon race-something bindings.

They're yours for zero dollars if you pay the shipping.

That should be Plake enough for pretty much anybody.
Dibs on the bindings if he doesn't want the skis.
post #8 of 23
Bob,

I've been thinking along the same lines as Ivan, and was contemplating pulling the trigger on the older Atomic SG skis listed by Denver Wholesale Skis. Of course if it was a perfect world I would chose the Stockli SG Skis they also have listed (but then I wouldn't get the chance to find out if the skis killed me because my wife would take care of that before I even got to a slope this year!).

So I too would be very interested in your offer if Ivan is not. I would even be interested in the skis if Phil gets another pair of bindings!

Joseph
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post #10 of 23
The old K2 910's..223 might be a good choice.
Plake I'm sure has skied them.

I've heard they are equally good in moguls and ballet.
post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
I too have been looking at the atomic SG's. But I think I may go with the Solomon Equips in the 210. And I have found many 195's that will work for my wife.

Hey Bob, I am interested in your offer. What year are the skis?
post #12 of 23
Thread Starter 
Hey what does everyone think of the Volkl p40 in a 193 for my wife?
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by JTripodi View Post
So I too would be very interested in your offer if Ivan is not. I would even be interested in the skis if Phil gets another pair of bindings!

Joseph
Thanks, Joseph. Since I offered them first to Ivan and since he seems interested, I should at least let him say "no" before I offer them to you. Let's see what his decision is.

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Originally Posted by Ivan Merl View Post
Hey Bob, I am interested in your offer. What year are the skis?
I don't even know. I would say mid to late 80's because I think Research Dynamics went out of business before 1990. These would be some of the last skis that were sold under that brand. I'll take a closer look at them this afternoon and post more details (including what the bindings are) tonight. I've skied them quite a few times in the last three or four years. They are very stout skis. If you like to go really fast, these are your ticket.

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Originally Posted by Ivan Merl View Post
Hey what does everyone think of the Volkl p40 in a 193 for my wife?
I think I'd have to wonder if she's a World Cup racer.
post #14 of 23
Thread Starter 
Bob, thank you for the offer, but I will decline. I am in the mood for a slightly newer ski. Heh, I hope my wife can step up to World Cup level real quick. If I am going for a 210-220, I hope she can manage on a 190-195. Again thank you.
post #15 of 23
Hey, Ivan, no problem. Good luck with the search (and you should maybe ask your wife what she might want in new skis rather than us).

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Originally Posted by JTripodi View Post
Bob,

So I too would be very interested in your offer if Ivan is not. I would even be interested in the skis if Phil gets another pair of bindings!

Joseph
Hi, Joseph.

Here are the skis. Research Dynamics, 217cm Super G, Salomon 997 Driver bindings currently set for 321mm boot sole. The bases and edges are in pristine condition with the exception of a few very minor little edge rust spots. The bases are slathered in a summer wax. I've skied on these several times in the last few years at Jackson Hole, including a fair bit of bump skiing on Rendezvous Bowl. They're way fun.

If you want them, pm me with your mailing address and I'll check to see what shipping would cost you before you commit.

Thanks.

Fronts:



Backs:



Mid-point:



Tips:




Jaws:



Here are the skis stood up next to a pair of 165cm Heads just so you can compare the lengths:



You'd have fun on them. You know you would.
post #16 of 23
Bob,

What a great surprise to find upon waking up this first really crisp morning here in New York. (My wife just yelled in that it started to flurry this moment!) Needless to say, the pictures of the skis excite me very much.

I was one of the last long straight ski holdouts at my home mountain MRG, and only made the switch to shorter shaped skis four years ago after too many experiences of not being able to fit my skis through the trees (only when they were sideways by the way). I know it was not the skis that were too old, however, just the old leg muscles. Never-the-less, I must admit the new skis certainly have been a wonderful new lease on life.

For the last two years I've been hanging out with a few of my old Whiteface racing buddies who for some reason I will never fathom, do not appreciate the MRG charm, and therefore find myself skiing the long groomers at Whiteface quite often with them. Last year I picked up an old pair of 185 GS skis and had a lot of fun. I even started dabbling in some racing, and on my way down from the summit on the hard snow days (virtually everyday I should say!) couldn't but dream of how much fun some real long skis would be.

Well it looks like I'm finally going to find out. Unfortunately I guarantee there will be no trip reports with pictures even close to those in the thread link Trechick was kind enough to post. I don't think I will start sporting a Plake hairdo either!

I've only been Westward twice, to Alta and Snowbird both times, and this year my wife won a week long ski trip to Lake Tahoe, but I know it is a must we get out to Jackson sooner rather than later. Now I have a good reason- to thank you in person! I don't have to worry my wife will kill me for spending a lot of money on some "insane skis" (her words) anymore. I only have to make sure the skis don't do me in before I get there.

Joseph
(PM on the way)
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ivan Merl View Post
Hey what does everyone think of the Volkl p40 in a 193 for my wife?
Nah, 193 would be too short, what about a P40-F1 in 198 ?
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
Nah, 193 would be too short, what about a P40-F1 in 198 ?
I'm guessing the 198's are still not enough ski for her but that's as long as they go.

If they built them in a 208 maybe.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by JTripodi View Post
Bob,

What a great surprise to find upon waking up this first really crisp morning here in New York. (My wife just yelled in that it started to flurry this moment!) Needless to say, the pictures of the skis excite me very much.

I was one of the last long straight ski holdouts at my home mountain MRG, and only made the switch to shorter shaped skis four years ago after too many experiences of not being able to fit my skis through the trees (only when they were sideways by the way). I know it was not the skis that were too old, however, just the old leg muscles. Never-the-less, I must admit the new skis certainly have been a wonderful new lease on life.

For the last two years I've been hanging out with a few of my old Whiteface racing buddies who for some reason I will never fathom, do not appreciate the MRG charm, and therefore find myself skiing the long groomers at Whiteface quite often with them. Last year I picked up an old pair of 185 GS skis and had a lot of fun. I even started dabbling in some racing, and on my way down from the summit on the hard snow days (virtually everyday I should say!) couldn't but dream of how much fun some real long skis would be.

Well it looks like I'm finally going to find out. Unfortunately I guarantee there will be no trip reports with pictures even close to those in the thread link Trechick was kind enough to post. I don't think I will start sporting a Plake hairdo either!

I've only been Westward twice, to Alta and Snowbird both times, and this year my wife won a week long ski trip to Lake Tahoe, but I know it is a must we get out to Jackson sooner rather than later. Now I have a good reason- to thank you in person! I don't have to worry my wife will kill me for spending a lot of money on some "insane skis" (her words) anymore. I only have to make sure the skis don't do me in before I get there.

Joseph
(PM on the way)
PM back atcha'. I'm very pleased that they'll be going to someone who appreciates them (and knows how to ski them).
post #20 of 23
Thread Starter 
I was planning getting both of us some SG skis, I thing the turn radius on the P40s may be a little short of what I was looking for. We are both interested in the challenge of skiing old school every now and then. Having skied long strait skis when I was seventeen. I think putting her on a long ski for a while could really push my wife from the low level 8 to an upper level nine. It may be a weird method, but it will be fun none the less. Thank you for all of your input. I think I have found the skis I am going to bid on. I am just looking for an SG in the 190-200's.
post #21 of 23
Quote:
PM back atcha'. I'm very pleased that they'll be going to someone who appreciates them (and knows how to ski them).
I certainly will appreciate them, but to assume I know how to ski them might be going a tad too far!!!!!

After a season though, who knows?
post #22 of 23
Okay, then P9 RS-Super (the green/yellow ones) in 205, those are still awweeesome
post #23 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thank you for all the replies. I ended up buying Salomon SG 210's for myself and Volkl P40 193's for my wife. Hehe I hope I can manage to have some kind of fun on these skis. If not, I always have my standards.
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