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post #31 of 42
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Originally Posted by Lisamarie View Post
As well as the town itself. There are intriguing places that even locals never visit.
You aren't kidding. I wander in the woods around here off-trail all summer long and I've seen some amazing things over the years. I know where a full sleigh from the 1800s was just abandoned and still sits where it was left.
post #32 of 42
BV,
Here are the basic locations:
Ullr Bowl. You can see it from P8 interconnect. As you are going up on the chair, it is just above the second face of Tiger, to your left. Follow the lower drainage skier's right to go to lower Southern Cross.

Kitchen Wall - after making it to the drainage in The Windows (W4 or higher, cut skier's left across the drainage. Stay inside the treeline. Only ski it on powder fresh days.

La Herrina Line - Usually available Feb and March. E-lift. Skier's right on Tom's Baby, and then GS through the 3 trees just above the e-lift line.

When I go to a big new area I like a guide. 15 yrs ago I hooked up with Plake and McCoy in Mammoth (different days with each) and really learned how to ski that Mammoth. And a few years later skied with 2 instructors in Jackson. That was a blast too.
post #33 of 42
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You aren't kidding. I wander in the woods around here off-trail all summer long and I've seen some amazing things over the years. I know where a full sleigh from the 1800s was just abandoned and still sits where it was left.
You're kidding! Can you reveal it, even in a PM. It would be cool to get some new summer walking tours at Breck Heritage. BTW, don't know if you do the MySpace or Facebook page, but check us out at
MySpace

We also have a Breck 150 Facebook page, and will have a blog on the Summit Daily starting this week.

Sorry for the hijack, but I do concur that Jonathan is great!
post #34 of 42
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Originally Posted by breckview View Post
Where are these? I think I know just about everything at Breck but don't know the local names for everything.

FWIW, I highly recommend that people who want to ski stuff beyond groomers do a day with an expert guide like snowpro for Breck. After skiing the Aspen mountains with a born/raised local over the last few years, I think the best parts of every mountain are places you'd never discover on your own in the few days of a ski trip.
+1 Skiing with Jonathan (snowpro) is a great experience. I guarantee you will have fun, and you'll find terrain you didn't know about. And seeing the video on his website helps to memorialize the day!

Mike
post #35 of 42
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Originally Posted by snowpro View Post
BV,
Here are the basic locations:
Thanks. Never skied Kitchen Wall. I'm in Ullr and the trees right of Tom's Baby all the time.
post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by Lisamarie View Post
You're kidding! Can you reveal it, even in a PM.
No can do. It's a protected artifact on federal land and I want it to stay that way. I will tell you how I found it though. I'm doing a project to climb every named or numbered point in Summit County so I spend a lot of time navigating by map/compass to these obscure points. Pretty much all people see in the county are the 10 feet on each side of the trails. The cool stuff is hidden in the woods.
post #37 of 42
Fascinating! This is truly one of the world's amazing places!
post #38 of 42
Why would one sign up for the Big Mountain Experience vs. a regular advanced/expert group lesson? The BME is $190 vs. $106 for a regular lesson. BME guarantees 4 or less per group but I'd guess that in most advance/expert group lessons there will be 4 or less in the group as well. BME starts at 9am vs. 9:45am. If the student's skill level is up to skiing the most advanced terrain at Breck, I don't understand why he or she would pay the extra $ for a slightly longer lesson. Is there something I'm missing?
post #39 of 42
The level 9 groups often are 8-10+ folk. And they know how to ski. Sometimes you get lucky and get a smaller group, but because of the unlimited lesson deal, the upper classes are often filled with locals who use the class to cut lines.

There is a bit of instruction that comes along with the class, but the amount of it depends on the instructor and the composition of the class.

Mike
post #40 of 42
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Originally Posted by trtaylor View Post
Also, have you guys every heard of a run called "Needle's Eye" off of Volunteer on peak 9? I skied that once but i dont know if its a real run.
Yes Needle's Eye is a real run. No formal run sign; usually just a hand-written sign on a piece of cardboard. Much harder than the usual Breck double-black.
post #41 of 42
Prosper,
Mike is right about upper level lesson at Breck. A few years ago we started a lesson pass at Breck, which has turned into a big hit.

Here are a couple of other things about the lesson difference from a practical standpoint.

Start times:
BME - 9am for the day. If you get your warm up runs before 9, then we hit it from the start.
Lvl 9 group- Meet around 9:45, leave the meeting area around 10. Usually at least 1 warm up run. And we make sure there is a proper split between the 7-8-9s. That could take some time. Throw in a little instruction, making sure the group gels, and identifying proper terrain for the group.

Lunch -
BME - included, eat with instructor, take breaks at the groups pace (or not)
Lvl 9 group - Lesson officially 10-12:15, 1:30-3:45. The group can disband and then meet up after lunch. Although, the instructors may eat with the group, and arrange those times differently. But the instructor is not paid for lunch time, so it is at his/her discretion.

Pacing - We must chose lesson content, speed, terrain which is usable by the slowest/less skilled skier of the group.
BME -4 or less allows for more discussion on the chair, and this may allow more ski time. As questions and terrain choices can be made on the chair.
Lvl 9 grp - 7-10+ students requires more time to teach, give feedback, choose terrain, and give directions.

Either way (and this is in no way meant to offend to any other resort instructors) these lessons are taught by some of the best instructors in the world. I have skied with top instructors from several continents, and I feel very honored call these instructors my friends and colleagues.

Jon
MySnowPro
post #42 of 42
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Lvl 9 grp - 7-10+ students requires more time to teach, give feedback, choose terrain, and give directions.
MySnowPro
7-10 students for a level 9 lesson seems like a lot. I guess a lot of locals take advantage of the unlimited advanced lessons at Breck. I don't think I've ever been in an advanced lesson at other resorts with more than 5-6 students. Usually there are only 2-3 students and it's not uncommon for me to be the only student.
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