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Marker Jester, Griffon vs. IPT Wideride?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
My skis (Volkl AC50's) came with Marker IPT Wideride bindings -Din 14.

If never seen an ad for these, yet have seen many for Marker's Jester and Griffon, which look similar.

What's the distinction, if any, between IPT Wideride and Jester/Griffon?
post #2 of 13
flat vs system
post #3 of 13
Bird said it. It is basically a system Grif-ster, I am hoping that Blizzard will ad a variation next year too.
post #4 of 13
I saw them in the store and they definitely look similar to the Griffon/Jester, but it is interesting that the Din is halfway between the two (if your 14 Din statement is correct).
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies.

My IPT Wideride bindings come in both a 12 and 14 Din. Mine are 14.

It makes sense that these are essentially Jester/Griffon's, dedicated to Volkl skis.

I attribute a healthy segment of my pleasure with the AC50's to these bindings. For an 85 mm ski, they snap turns with surprising agility. The wider binding footprint (30% wider) is probably a factor.

If so, the gauntlet is cast for other vendors.
post #6 of 13
What I liked about the look of these bindings is how they integrate with the ski- I know some have issues with that, but it looks like a solid wide connection that sits with a low profile in that they appear to be almost sunk in...
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post
What I liked about the look of these bindings is how they integrate with the ski- I know some have issues with that, but it looks like a solid wide connection that sits with a low profile in that they appear to be almost sunk in...
You're correct.

They're totally sunk-in.

The bindings are embedded deep within the skis, and cover most of the width.

I've always considered binding hype to be...well...binding hype. How can a clamp make a difference - "motion" or not? Marketing balderdash.

But, these puppies are for real. I've tried a half-dozen skis in the 85 mm range, and none approach the agility of the AC50's. A big difference. I'm convinced much is due to the wide, sunken, iPT binding design.

I hoist a glass to those engineering dweebs at Marker.
post #8 of 13
I am kinda disappointed that Blizzard (like K2) is using the Grif-ster heel, but not the toe, they are using a traditional Marker Toe. I am hoping we will see a change in this for next season.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
I am kinda disappointed that Blizzard (like K2) is using the Grif-ster heel, but not the toe, they are using a traditional Marker Toe. I am hoping we will see a change in this for next season.
I agree. I don't foresee an issue with the current toe, but I'd prefer the Grif-ster.
post #10 of 13
I think that toe may be gone soon.
post #11 of 13
What is the ramp angle of the Jester?
post #12 of 13
2mm.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Strato View Post
My skis (Volkl AC50's) came with Marker IPT Wideride bindings -Din 14.

If never seen an ad for these, yet have seen many for Marker's Jester and Griffon, which look similar.

What's the distinction, if any, between IPT Wideride and Jester/Griffon?
IPT wide ride is the marker jester/griffon built for volkl.
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