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Drive SLC to Jhole?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
How feasible is this? Do people do it in the winter?

Google maps says 305 mi, 5 hours+. Are the roads ever in peril? Are there fees for rental cars involved?

Thinking of doing a mega SLC-Jhole tour for the gathering time and this is one way to do it ....

tnx
post #2 of 19
Is it feasible? Absolutely!!

In the winter? Yes!!

Are there fees for rental car? Depends on your agreement and included mileage.

Are the roads ever in peril? Depends on the weather and the route you choose. If you take I-15 to Idaho Falls a good portion of the driving is freeway. You will still need to deal with Teton pass, but it is usually well maintained.

We did this trip last Feb during a major storm. The roads were good for the most part, until we hit Idaho Falls where they had route 26 closed for several hours while they removed the drifted snow. The return trip was no problem - about 5 hours.
post #3 of 19
I did it last season from Jackson to SLC on snow covered roads and it was white knuckle at times.

As NeedToSki mentioned, the area between Victor and Idaho falls is mostly high plains and open and snow can drift quickly. There's one minor pass in Idaho before Teton coming from SLC. The road up and over Teton is fairly wide and they had areas plowed to pull off the side of the road if you needed to every so often. From SLC to Idaho Falls is interstate, but it was still treacherous from Ogden to just past the Idaho line. Overall it was 6:45 in these conditions with one stop.

It wasn't a pleasant experience, but I'll be doing again this season for the Gathering. On clear roads it would be a pleasant drive and even in the conditions we had, I wouldn't hesitate to do it.
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post #5 of 19
The are few ways to to this, but basically to boils down to how much time you have.

1) From SLC go up I-15 to Pocatello and then East to Victor and over Teton Pass, We've done it dozens of times in the Winter. No problems. Just watch to see of the Teton Pass has been closed. In Swan Valley there is a big illuminated sign telling the status of the Pass. If closed, simply go around through Snake River Canyon. If the Pass open, it is safe. Tricky part- the highway sign in Swan Valley has an arrow that points straight to go to Jackson, but really the best way to go is to take a right and go over Teton Pass. It is a very misleading sign.

2) Go East on I-80 and North at Evanston, on I think 89/191 . This is my preferred route in the summer, but not in the Winter. Lots of obscure turns and intersections in the Southern part of the state. Done this one a bunch in the Winter as well. Parts of this route are very remote and see little traffic during certain parts of the day.

While, IMHO, #2 is more beautiful than the interstate route, I'm concerned about going off the road in the middle of Winter and not seeing another human for X amount of time. Also tons of deer on route #2.

I hope I didn't confuse you.
post #6 of 19
Did it last year, no biggy. Having a GeePeeS helped.
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks all ... OK it's an option then. Hmm ... to spend the miles and get an air ticket or not, that is the question
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by Skiing-in-Jackson View Post
The are few ways to to this, but basically to boils down to how much time you have.

1) From SLC go up I-15 to Pocatello and then East to Victor and over Teton Pass, We've done it dozens of times in the Winter. No problems. Just watch to see of the Teton Pass has been closed. In Swan Valley there is a big illuminated sign telling the status of the Pass. If closed, simply go around through Snake River Canyon. If the Pass open, it is safe. Tricky part- the highway sign in Swan Valley has an arrow that points straight to go to Jackson, but really the best way to go is to take a right and go over Teton Pass. It is a very misleading sign.

2) Go East on I-80 and North at Evanston, on I think 89/191 . This is my preferred route in the summer, but not in the Winter. Lots of obscure turns and intersections in the Southern part of the state. Done this one a bunch in the Winter as well. Parts of this route are very remote and see little traffic during certain parts of the day.

While, IMHO, #2 is more beautiful than the interstate route, I'm concerned about going off the road in the middle of Winter and not seeing another human for X amount of time. Also tons of deer on route #2.

I hope I didn't confuse you.

I agree with Stephen, except that #1 is driving north to Idaho Falls (not Pocatello), and it's a left at Swan Valley (not a right). Don't want you guys getting lost.
post #9 of 19
i've been looking at the various companies that rent cars out of SLC airport and pretty well all had unlimited mileage provided you stayed in the immediate states. WY and CO included.

i'm just a bit puzzled about the insurance thing. Most of them, no insurance is included, and to buy it costs almost double the car hire! Do people not get normal crash/damage insurance?

I'm plannign to grab a tiny little car on arrival and use it around Utah, to Jackson and maybe to Colorado if I end up heading over there.
post #10 of 19
the insurance thing is a big scam for the most part. most people have insurance on their own cars that also covers rentals, and a lot of credit cards also cover damage to a rental. if you aren't covered under either of those scenarios though, you might want to get the insurance.
post #11 of 19
Hmmm. I might check my travel insurance. Foreigners naturally aren't covered for foreign car hire by their domestic insurance. I'm not paying double though, that's nuts.
post #12 of 19
In that case, your only option is to use a credit card that comes with collision coverage.

Short of that, you'll have little choice but to pay for the optional insurance, which "can double the cost"...
post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 
It's almost worth looking into airfare or worst case bus fare. It looks like having a car in Jackson isn't as necessary as say SLC, because you ski Jackson Hole or Targhee and there are shuttles there.

SLC there are a lot more places to get to by car (although I've done it without a car too it's just less convenient).

I have heard that the drive is somewhat weather dependent - anyone care to comment? It's around 5 hours in good weather or closer to 8 in bad according to the feedback I've had so far.
post #14 of 19
On the rental car insurance issue -- unfortunately, the cheaper the rental the more you need it.

I had a situation where I thought I was going to wind up with a large bill for pre-existing damage I did not notice. This was at one of second tier national chains. (One headlight was pushed in, and the body panel was warped. But it was subtle, and I never saw it till the inspector pointed it out.) Fortunately, being friendly but incredulous convinced the guy that I didn't do it. I've heard horror stories of situations that did not end so happily.

On the other hand, after this sensitized me I have noted small things on Hertz cars and had them tell me, "That's just normal wear and tear."

The pricing structure is sort of a scam -- they want a small initial price for comparison shoppers, then they add and add and add. Besides the insurance, tax and any "concession fee" the airport charges -- often close to 20% -- is not in the base price. I figure twice the "window shopping price" is usually about right.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by mdf View Post

The pricing structure is sort of a scam -- they want a small initial price for comparison shoppers, then they add and add and add. Besides the insurance, tax and any "concession fee" the airport charges -- often close to 20% -- is not in the base price. I figure twice the "window shopping price" is usually about right.
i booked online last year for slc and the price quote was what i paid, if you book online make sure that the price quoted includes taxes and fees. i think i paid around $15 a day for a pt cruiser.
post #16 of 19
That's a good deal.

I'm not saying there is any fraud going on -- everything is in the final total. What I'm talking about is the situation where you see an ad for (as an example) $19/day, plan 5 days, and are thinking "ok, $100 bucks, no big deal" but when it comes time to push the "confirm" button the bottom line is $250 or something.
post #17 of 19
Yeah, when you look at the various deals, you have to click through to get the "final price". Interestingly, there's a few brokers who state their price includes "CDW" and "LDW" and some other insurances. Their prices came in a hundred or so more than the cheapest no insurance prices, so I guess I'll be angling for those ones. I'm getting a car for the whole month, I've done Utah and you need a bloody car! It just makes life so much more delightful.
post #18 of 19
Our group has been driving up from SLC to JH every year the first week in Feb for the last 10 years. Its not an easy drive. Flight arrives in SLC late at night. We get the rental car and drive north to stay in a Hotel in Ogden just north of SLC. Get up early next day and ski Powder Mountain usually on Satuday. Powder Mountain is never crowded. Depending on weather we leave Powder Mountain about 2pm for the drive to Jackson Hole. We have gone the Idaho Falls route for the most part but there have been times when Teton Pass is closed and we have gone through Evanston.

We like to stay at the Village Center Inn which is about 25 feet from the JH TRAM. I hate long comutes in the morning. Cost per person for 7 nights and 5 lift tickets is about $500. We have breakfast and lunch in our hotel room. Sometimes we cook dinner in the hotel room to reduce the cost. At the end of the day we go back to room grab a beer and sit outside in front of the tram to watch the sun set. Last year for the Village Center Inn

Note that if you fly into JH the rental cars in JH are a lot more expensive. Cheaper to rent a car in SLC airport.

I think my favorite places to eat are the Mangy Moose in Teton Village and the Teton Steak House in town. Teton Steak house has a nice steak with huge salad bar for under $20. If you like barbacue check out Bubbas BBQ. Bring your own beer in Bubbas. Don't bring in too much beer because state law says any beer your bring in you can not take back out. Tip of the day. You can always go back out to your car for more beer.

Everybody looks like this on Powder Days at JH . Its pathetic in a good sorta way.
post #19 of 19
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thanks catskills - great tips!
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