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Women's Midfat - Recommendations?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hi, looking for a mid-fat ski for my daughter. She's a J3 racer, 5' 9", 140 lbs., a strong kid, and we're looking for something that will be fun all over the mountain. 80 to 90 mm in the waist, 166 to 170 cm in length (she's still growing!). Something like the Elan Free Spice? Other choices? Don't want to over-power her but would like the ski to last.
post #2 of 16
Well since you live in Seattle let me tell first and foremost I am jealous.

2ndly These are the skis my sister skis on and she is about the same size.

http://www.salomonsports.com/us/#/ski/skis/freeski/lady

They get her around just fine on the front range but as far as the pnw is concerend are you sure you don't want something a little fatter?

If I were you I would go with something like this. http://www.k2skis.com/products/skis.asp?id=25

Or if you decide to go fat just get her this
http://www.k2skis.com/products/skis.asp?id=24

All good skis. From smallest to largest.
post #3 of 16
I'd suggest she take a look at a Head Sweet Fat Thang (renamed to Sweet One this year) or a Volkl Aura. I just started skiing the Sweet Fat and am really enjoying it. I've not had it in powder yet but I'm looking forward to it for sure! A J3 racer who is 5'9" and 140 isn't going to be overpowered easily so I wouldn't worry so much about that.
post #4 of 16
In addition to the other recommendations, my wife fell in love with her Dynastar Exclusive Legend Powders last year. 85mm in the waist, so really a midfat rather than a powder ski. Great versatility in Sierra conditions, which are fairly similar to PNW. My wife loved them on everything from fresh to groomed, and they particularly shone in the spring crud. After getting them, she didn't spend more than a day on her other skis (75mm-wide Exclusive Legends and 95mm-wide Phat Luvs) for the rest of the season.
post #5 of 16
After a bunch of research I bought my girl friend some Dynastar Exclusive Legend Powders for her everyday ski. I'm not sure why they put powder in the name since their width and performance is more aimed at a western all-mountain ski. I chose them because my girl friend is light weight and gets knocked around by slush & crud. She needed a ski that could handle both but wasn't an unwieldy beast.
post #6 of 16
I would not limit your search just to womens skis. If you/she find the right ski that is not a "W" ski but works get it.

I have a rant about why womens gear sucks. I think some good points.
post #7 of 16
Cogirl is spot on I forgot about those head fat things. Those would be bomber skis if i were a chick.
post #8 of 16
I agree that the moniker Exclusive Legend Powder should never have had the term "powder" in the title. The ELP is a wonderfully balanced all mountain ski for someone in this weight range. The ELP compares favorably with the Mythic Rider except it's more suitable for lighter skiers. Another really good ski tool for a skier in this weight range is the Fischer Watea 84 in the 167 size.

SJ
post #9 of 16
I'm around the same weight but shorter and MUCH older. I was planning on demo'ing the Line Celebrity this season, a 90mm waisted Twin Tip. I've never rode twin tips before but I have heard some good things about it being very versatile. I am looking forward to trying them out and having a little fun on them. Might be something to look at.
post #10 of 16
I'm around the same weight but shorter and MUCH older. I was planning on demo'ing the Line Celebrity this season, a 90mm waisted Twin Tip. I've never rode twin tips before but I have heard some good things about these boards being very versatile. I am looking forward to trying them out and having a little fun on them. Might be something to look at.
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the feedback so far. I've noticed there's a real gap in women's ski lengths; typically skis cluster around 162 cm and then jump to 170 cm. Looking at men's skis like the Watea 84 is often a way to solve this since you can find 167/168 cm skis. Question for you, is the ELP at 172 cm too long for my daughter given she's strong and could wind up at 5' 10"? Would you recommend 165 ish vs 170 ish, or am I splitting hairs?

Also, has anyone skied the Free Spice?
post #12 of 16
The ELP goes 165 then 172. I don't think a 172 would be too much for a girl that soon will be on FIS length skis. Don't worry too much about the diff between a 165 and a 167. The diff there is more the ski than the length. The Fischer is a little heavier and more damp while the ELP is snappier. Either would be fine.

SJ
post #13 of 16
Blizzard is making some nice skis that in the shorter lengths would be great for her (Cronus, Magnum 8.1). Keep in mind that in terms of float, a low 80's ski for a 140 lb skier is equivalent to a mid 90's for a 180 lb skier, a high 80's ski=a Goat size ski for a heavier skier.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by JHSki View Post
Hi, looking for a mid-fat ski for my daughter. She's a J3 racer, 5' 9", 140 lbs., a strong kid, and we're looking for something that will be fun all over the mountain. 80 to 90 mm in the waist, 166 to 170 cm in length (she's still growing!). Something like the Elan Free Spice? Other choices? Don't want to over-power her but would like the ski to last.
I love my K2 Recons...at the moment they are my favorite "all mountain" ski...I've skied them in just about every "west coast" terrain and conditions. I am five-foot-five and weight between 130 and 136 lbs. so I prefer a ski that is in the 160 range. Your daughter would probably like the 170s. But, the Recons might be a little too narrow for what you are looking for at 119/78/105, so I would consider the K2 Tough Luvs at 124/88/111. I bought a pair of Toughs last year at the end of the season, but I haven't had a chance to use them. My trainer at Squaw loves hers...supposedly the Toughs are more versatile than the Recons. Since she is an expert J3 racer, she will enjoy just about any ski she rides.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
I just bought her a pair of used Vision Vapors, 165 cm, 76 mm waist. They'll be her everyday non-racing ski. I'd like to get her something fun (sneak Christmas present) that would have more soft snow & off-piste bias. Anything listed below that you think I should avoid (just not a good ski), or is either too close to the Vision or just too hard a ski for a still growing kid? Anything else I should consider (there are already a lot of choices!).

Dynastar ELP (172/85)
Fischer Watea 84 (167/84)
K2 Tough Luv (170/88)
K2 Miss Behaved (169/98)
Head Sweet One (166 or 173/92)
Roxy Broomstix (168/86)
Roxy Shazam (170/90)

Thanks!
post #16 of 16
So you're shooting for a two-ski non-race quiver.

There's no reason to complement a 76mm-wide ski with a slightly wider ski. The ideal conditions for both will be too close, and there will be too many conditions under which neither excel.

The complement to the Vision Vapors (a.k.a. AMC76) is what used to be called a wide ski, but is now more a midfat -- something in the 95-110mm width range. The only one on your list is the Miss Behaved, which is rockered to boot. That makes it much more soft-snow (not necessarily powder) biased, and that's a good thing in my book to complement an 80/20 ski like the Vapor.

I'd consider the Missbehaved, plus the Phat Luv, the Volkl Gotama (or its women's equivalent), the Scott P4, and lots of others.

For something a little stiffer (she's a racer, after all), maybe the Dynastar Exclusive Pro Rider.

For something off the beaten path and well attuned to your conditions, look at the offerings from Moment and PM Gear.
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