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Pro advice on Head Dream Thangs 12 needed

post #1 of 12
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I have a pair of Lange CRL 90W 05/06, that took some work to get right. Besides cant adjustments I had the area around the outer ankle (where the bolt is) and the area along the side just below the small toe blown out as well as some heel lifts installed that relieved pressure and pain almost instantly on the top of my foot. Something was done to the bottom heel plate on the left boot, he may have flipped it or something I don’t remember. Anyway, the boots fit like a glove but I am slightly annoyed by the leaking and would like an updated boot. Note: I also have a pair of CRL 80W that I may return because I'm worried they will have the same problem with leaking.

I reluctantly tried on a few pairs of boots over the weekend and eliminated all but a pair of Head Dream Thang's 12 (2008) I really like the features this boot offers and the way they felt in store after a few minor adjustments, i.e. super feet and heel lifts. These adjustments were made after I suggested them, the sales guy seemed to bawk at my lifts and commented about Jeannie Thoren being crazy. Though it is not noticeable to the naked eye my right hip is slightly higher than the left due to a slight spine curvature, which cant adjustment and heel lifts correct. The person who I was working with is a relatively cool guy, he’s pretty knowledgeable and a manager at one of the popular ski shops in the area. However, he showed a lack of sensitivity to my issues and did not seem to respect my knowledge on what works for me, almost chauvinistic. I would like a pro's opinion before I purchase, I am 80% there because I know I can take them to a fitter afterward and have adjustments done.

I would like an overall comparison as well as how customizable the Heads are, also the differences between shell shapes, measurements etc… would be helpful if anyone knows.

The shell length on my Lange's are 299 and 101 in width, the Heads are 297, but felt a tad roomier in the toe box area, I couldn’t find anything online about width.

I don’t need new boots it is more of a want. These boots seem to have what I “want” and the price is ridiculous so I need to make a decision soon because I need to get my bindings mounted.
post #2 of 12
1) all boots leak, some worse then others, but I would look at a boot dryer and keep what you have. Or if you find your feet still get cold (after drying your boots out overnight) shy not hottornics or intuition liners?
Sounds like you have particular needs, and finding the right boot is not easy, so now that you have a great boot (that gets a bit wet) why get rid of it?
post #3 of 12
You sound far better informed than many skiers who need our services. I agree with mtnlion. Is there an option for sealing your boots. Duct tape?

Lou
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys for your remarks about my current boots, I should have stated that they only leak if I do not use duct tape and/or wear my boot gloves. The boot gloves are great but a pain in the butt if I need to adjust my buckles. I would prefer to avoid additional gadgets altogether if possible. Since I began using the duct tape and/or boot gloves my feet have not gotten wet and stay pretty warm. These are the first boots that I have had which actually leaked, or had noticeable leaking.

However, I think what was missed was that….I don't “need” new boots it is more of a "want" and would like some comments about the Dream Thang 12. All I seem to find online is just the usual marketing verbiage. Hope you can help. Thanks again!
post #5 of 12
stick with what you got and buy a ski holiday
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
stick with what you got and buy a ski holiday
Yeah thanks for giving it a try mntlion but that's not the answer to the questions I posted.

Are there any bootfitters with knowledge about the Head line who can answer my specific questions?
post #7 of 12
We don't carry the 12, just up to the 10.5 in the Dream line. We have very good success in fitting them. The volume is 104, so it is a bit wider in the forefoot area than you have. The buckle design has been a big selling point, very easy to get leverage with the upper two. Which Superfeet did they work with, Plums or the new Hot Pink?
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
We don't carry the 12, just up to the 10.5 in the Dream line. We have very good success in fitting them. The volume is 104, so it is a bit wider in the forefoot area than you have. The buckle design has been a big selling point, very easy to get leverage with the upper two. Which Superfeet did they work with, Plums or the new Hot Pink?
THANK YOU Phil...that's just the kind of info I am looking for. The superfeet are the plum color. I do have custom orthotics but I found them a bit hard and uncomfortable I have been wearing them in my street boots when I remember, to try and get used to them. I have not experienced any discomfort with the superfeet they have been fine, but then I have only had them 1 season and didn't ski much last year.

Have you heard any complaints with leaking or anything else from customers and could you tell me your overall impression of the Head boot?

It would have been helpful to know the history of leaking and Langes prior to purchasing them, would have saved me some grief. So I want to get as much info on these babies as possible. Thanks again.
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by HotChocolate View Post
Have you heard any complaints with leaking or anything else from customers and could you tell me your overall impression of the Head boot?
It is a wide boot and fits a wider foot, we have had good success fitting it under those parameters. Only complaints would be from a person who was miss fit for it, but that could happen with any boot. What do your feet tell you?
post #10 of 12
Agree with Phil. Buckle design is good and quality is good. Boot is big. If your foot is not wide and high volume everywhere you will not get a sercure fit. Do a shell fit and compare volume to narrow offerings and you will be able to make determination.

Lou
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks Phil/Lou,

I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge. The day that I tried on new boots I wasn't prepared, the sales guy caught me off guard. I was just going in to have my bindings set. We chatted about the duct tape across the toe and he was like oh V let me get you into some new boots...blah! blah! So I was caught off guard and hadn't done any prep work.

My eyes brightened as the shiny buckles were fastened (don't know if that happens to guys or not) and for a minute I was almost sold. But reality always sets in when I think back to how long it took to get the right boot and fit. I certainly am not anxious to go down that trail again. Hey the duct tape ain't so bad right??

post #12 of 12
Don't change boots for the sake of changing boots. Sorry about the leakage, use the duct tape till it runs out.
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