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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
But you haven't visited them yet.

Wait 'til you do!



All kidding aside, when I leave Jackson Hole to ski in Utah, Snowbasin is the ski hill that I *always* want to visit. I love that place.

Snowbird is second.

come on you know you love beaver mountain.

ski the beave!!!!

tromano will be mad when tens of people assault his local powder paradise instead of the 8 skier that normally ski there.
post #32 of 46
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
well its not silly

snowbasin is the best resort in utah. and second in skiing experience.

no wait did I say that? alta's got the best skiing and Deer Valley is the best resort.
That's yesterdays news, along with Beaver Mtn.
The new #1 resort in Utah would be Wolf Mountain, although I've heard Snowbasin has nicer restrooms .
JF
post #33 of 46
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
for me I really have 3 categories

places I would like to ski at again, place I would ski at again, and places that I will never ski at again. I am sure this will offend someone.

place I would like to ski at again

Mammoth
Alpine Meadows
Brighton
Solitude
Alta
Snowbird
Snowbasin
Loveland
Abasin
Blue Knob
Laurel Mountain
Mad River Glen
Stowe
Smuggler's Notch
Jay Peak
Jackson Hole
Grand Targhee
Gore

places I would ski again

Squaw
Park City
Hidden Valley
Seven Springs
Timberline, WV
Wisp
Stratton
Keystone
whiteface

places I will try to avoid

Deer Valley
Okemo
Killington
Snowshoe, WV(might mountain bike there though).

best where ever you happen to be having fun that day.
BW, Just curious why Stratton over Killington? Is it the pipe and parks or you had a good experience at Stratton? I think Stratton has some of the best I've been at. That said I don't ski either on a weekend and especially would not go in a park or pipe if I was there on a weekend.
post #34 of 46
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Originally Posted by Snowbowler View Post
BW, Just curious why Stratton over Killington? Is it the pipe and parks or you had a good experience at Stratton? I think Stratton has some of the best I've been at. That said I don't ski either on a weekend and especially would not go in a park or pipe if I was there on a weekend.
the employes didnt treat me like shit at stratton and with PSIA its one of the cheapest hills in the country. Plus the snow was soft and there were no crowds.

Killington is a cluster **** in so many ways. I have been there more than anywhere else in vermont besides Jay Peak. I keep going hoping for greatness only to see rude employes, icey crowded run, short runs(the longest real vertical there is like 1600 feet), and extremely high prices with no PSIA discount. Killington for face value or stratton for 25 bucks? I think I know what your choice would be.
post #35 of 46
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
for me I really have 3 categories

places I would like to ski at again, place I would ski at again, and places that I will never ski at again. I am sure this will offend someone.

place I would like to ski at again

Mammoth
Alpine Meadows
Brighton
Solitude
Alta
Snowbird
Snowbasin
Loveland
Abasin
Blue Knob
Laurel Mountain
Mad River Glen
Stowe
Smuggler's Notch
Jay Peak
Jackson Hole
Grand Targhee
Gore

places I would ski again

Squaw
Park City
Hidden Valley
Seven Springs
Timberline, WV
Wisp
Stratton
Keystone
whiteface

places I will try to avoid

Deer Valley
Okemo
Killington
Snowshoe, WV(might mountain bike there though).

best where ever you happen to be having fun that day.
I like this way of thinking about it, but: since Whistler is nowhere on this list, I assume you haven't been. Ya gotta check it out. Key is to get the "bible"--the advance/expert guidebook.



post #36 of 46
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
for me I really have 3 categories

places I would like to ski at again, place I would ski at again, and places that I will never ski at again. I am sure this will offend someone.

place I would like to ski at again

Mammoth
Alpine Meadows
Brighton
Solitude
Alta
Snowbird
Snowbasin
Loveland
Abasin
Blue Knob
Laurel Mountain
Mad River Glen
Stowe
Smuggler's Notch
Jay Peak
Jackson Hole
Grand Targhee
Gore

places I would ski again

Squaw
Park City
Hidden Valley
Seven Springs
Timberline, WV
Wisp
Stratton
Keystone
whiteface

places I will try to avoid

Deer Valley
Okemo
Killington
Snowshoe, WV(might mountain bike there though).

best where ever you happen to be having fun that day.
If you land in the east, let me know and we'll move Whiteface up into that top group...no way should Gore be ahead of Whiteface. Maybe we can even get over to the Slides - I've never been there when they're open but I've got good vibes about this season
post #37 of 46
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
the employes didnt treat me like shit at stratton and with PSIA its one of the cheapest hills in the country. Plus the snow was soft and there were no crowds.

Killington is a cluster **** in so many ways. I have been there more than anywhere else in vermont besides Jay Peak. I keep going hoping for greatness only to see rude employes, icey crowded run, short runs(the longest real vertical there is like 1600 feet), and extremely high prices with no PSIA discount. Killington for face value or stratton for 25 bucks? I think I know what your choice would be.
Yeah, I hear you on that. Since Killington ended the PSIA deal I didn't go there even once last season and I'm only 45 min away. Going to be spending more time at MRG and Sugarbush for the same travel time. ( I keep going hoping for greatness) Good line maybe you should use it as a signature.
Sometimes we all keep trying the same thing hoping for greatness and keep getting burned.
post #38 of 46
BWPA I read through your list and have hit at least one in each category (most in your top place list, I guess I pick where I go well) and while I 95% agree with your list, I also have to jump on the WTF Stratton over K-mart bandwagon.

Bear Mountain, specifically Devil's Fiddle bumps big K up for me quite a bit, plus there are some OK tree stashes. I found no terrain at Stratton that does that for me. Both are overcrowded (usually with asshats), icey and overpriced, but K does have much better terrain.

Then again with K at full shot and Stratton for a deal, I can see your justification. I guess if you were in the neighborhood and wanted to get out for a few cheap turns, thats ok. Otherwise there is no way that Stratton should be in that list and Killington is not.

Thanks for showing Gore some love, I find it to be a very under-appreciated mountain.
post #39 of 46
I found gore has better conditions during a stay there than whiteface. Also the sking there was fun, quricky and homey.

Bj counting an area that is open like 10 percent of the time if it is open doesnt really count does it? It would be like saying snowbird is great because you have baldy but it only open 15 days out of the year. Your logic is flawed


I never said the list wasnt biased. duh and I promised it would offend.
post #40 of 46
I promise that I must ski Snowbasin (not that I wasn't already intending to...along with Silverton, but that's another story). It's just that every discussion about Snowbasin seems to lead to the quality of the bathrooms rather than that of the skiing - do they have "magic fingers" or something else equally titillating in there?
post #41 of 46
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
for me I really have 3 categories

places I would like to ski at again, place I would ski at again, and places that I will never ski at again. I am sure this will offend someone.
Offended no, just a bit puzzled. Keystone as the only CO ski area in the "you'd ski again" category? 'Splain that to me (don't get me wrong - I've had some great ski days there, it's just that they get essentially the least snow of all of the CO ski areas, and isn't snow quantity an important criteria)?
post #42 of 46
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
I found gore has better conditions during a stay there than whiteface. Also the sking there was fun, quricky and homey.

Bj counting an area that is open like 10 percent of the time if it is open doesnt really count does it? It would be like saying snowbird is great because you have baldy but it only open 15 days out of the year. Your logic is flawed


I never said the list wasnt biased. duh and I promised it would offend.
Offend? Hell no.

Slides is just icing on the Whiteface cake. Cloudspin and Skyward are 1800 vert feet of great, steep fast skiing. The trees between the 2 as well as the glades off of Little Whiteface are pretty sweet also. The slalom and GS trails are sweet for carving arcs at mach speeds. Except for a couple of short pitches, Gore is pretty flat. Don't get me wrong, I ski more at Gore because it's closer, but every chance I get, I ski at Whiteface since both are on my pass.
post #43 of 46
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Originally Posted by ski-ra View Post
Offended no, just a bit puzzled. Keystone as the only CO ski area in the "you'd ski again" category? 'Splain that to me (don't get me wrong - I've had some great ski days there, it's just that they get essentially the least snow of all of the CO ski areas, and isn't snow quantity an important criteria)?
i ve only skied 3 colorado areas Loveland and abasin Id like to ski again.Keystone is a notch below that.
post #44 of 46
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
i ve only skied 3 colorado areas Loveland and abasin Id like to ski again.Keystone is a notch below that.
Time for a go at Silverton (I need to go too), Vail (a polar opposite but with the back bowls), Wolf Creek (CO's Targhee), the Aspens (some butt-puckering steeps and no crowds, but who can afford it?), Winter Park (bumps, bumps, bumps with great snow), Steamboat (god couldn't have made better tree skiing or lighter snow, and the snow quantity in those trees is far greater than the 330" per year statistic--which taken below most of the tree skiing--would indicate)....
post #45 of 46
Well, of course, it depends on what you’re looking for.

Unfriendly lifties?

Runs to the resort that are nominally blue but are narrow and have been razored to perfect smoothness by snowboarders (and terrified beginners in wedges)?

Nursery slopes that are sliced through by out-of-control wannabes?

Overpriced mountain restaurants?

Foehn wind, damp snow, wind-blown crust (and combinations of all different kinds on top of one another)?

Val d’Isère has them all – oh, and did I mention the avalanches? Mustn’t forget the avalanches.

But then there’s also:

Huge and varied on-piste terrain with up to 2000 metres of vertical.

Even bigger lift-served off-piste

Ultra-modern lifts and almost no lift lines even at Easter and New Year

Some of the best guides and teachers on the planet (yes, and some pretty terrible ones too)

A skiers’ vibe. However good you are, there’s someone better than you, so there is no “go away gapers” rubbish. If you're serious about skiing and respectful of others, you can feel at home if you've been skiing for two days or twenty years. In the Espace Killy we’re all gapers (except Jean-Claude!)

Is Val d’Isère perfect? Certainly not! Is it the best? Well, I can’t ski much above 14 days a year and I don’t want to waste them, so it’s now my standard destination and my information on a lot of other resorts is lacking or out of date. I suspect if I were a different kind of skier I might be equally wedded to La Grave or perhaps Alta (neither of which I’ve skied). And I know that others are immune to its charms. But best for me? I’d be surprised if anywhere else worked better.
post #46 of 46
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Originally Posted by hitherandthither View Post
Well, of course, it depends on what you’re looking for.

Unfriendly lifties?

Runs to the resort that are nominally blue but are narrow and have been razored to perfect smoothness by snowboarders (and terrified beginners in wedges)?

Nursery slopes that are sliced through by out-of-control wannabes?

Overpriced mountain restaurants?

Foehn wind, damp snow, wind-blown crust (and combinations of all different kinds on top of one another)?

Val d’Isère has them all – oh, and did I mention the avalanches? Mustn’t forget the avalanches.

But then there’s also:

Huge and varied on-piste terrain with up to 2000 metres of vertical.

Even bigger lift-served off-piste

Ultra-modern lifts and almost no lift lines even at Easter and New Year

Some of the best guides and teachers on the planet (yes, and some pretty terrible ones too)

A skiers’ vibe. However good you are, there’s someone better than you, so there is no “go away gapers” rubbish. If you're serious about skiing and respectful of others, you can feel at home if you've been skiing for two days or twenty years. In the Espace Killy we’re all gapers (except Jean-Claude!)

Is Val d’Isère perfect? Certainly not? Is it the best? Well, I can’t ski much above 14 days a year and I don’t want to waste them, so it’s now my standard destination and my information on a lot of other resorts is lacking or out of date. I suspect if I were a different kind of skier I might be equally wedded to La Grave or perhaps Alta (neither of which I’ve skied). And I know that others are immune to its charms. But best for me? I’d be surprised if anywhere else worked better.
Thanks, hnt.

Val d'Isere is now on my must-visit list.

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