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Which bindings for my Gotamas?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone. I know there are similar threads to this already existing, but I was hoping I could get an answer to my question based upon my specifics. I recently got the new ('09) 183 Gotamas. I have the bindings from my last pair (which I no longer have as they were warrantied and replaced by my new skis) which are Marker M14s.

My question is what bindings should I put on my new skis? I am 180cm tall, 80kg, athletic, and I would consider myself an advanced skier. I am looking to start doing some touring for the first time this season, but that being said will likely only get out touring 3-4 times, and the rest of the time be doing downhill. I have heard that the Marker Duke's or Baron's are great bindings for downhill, while still giving the ability to do touring, but having read other threads on here I am now a little shy of Marker. What bindings would you suggest for the type of skiing I want to do? I don't want bindings that are solely for touring, they need to be able to stand up to the hardship of lots of downhill. Are Marker bindings as sketchy as some people think? Thanks for any help or advice.
post #2 of 11
Given the info above - Baron. End of discussion. Unless you have an unstated need for an unusually high DIN in which case the Duke is worth considering.

The discussions about older Markers have no bearing on the Duke/Baron/Jester/Griffon models.
post #3 of 11
I have Goats as well and put Dukes on mine last year.. Best set-up I've ever been on.. If your goinf to do ANY touring at all, Dukes/Barrons only way to go.....
post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks so much. Seeing as I don't think I need such a high DIN, I am thinking spindrift is on the right track with the Baron. This is pretty much the sweetest forum ever. EVER.
post #5 of 11
Definitely go for the Barons if you are not looking for a binding with a high DIN setting.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
So, during my reading I have been reminded of the fact (more times than I have fingers or toes to count on) that I have as much knowledge about ski equipment as the fly currently annoying me. I have read that to ski AT bindings (such as the Barons), I require AT boots. Do I need these boots only for when I tour, or do alpine boots not fit AT bindings? And what exactly are skins? My god, I am starving for knowledge. Oh, and pow, as season starts in 17 days.
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
The DIN setting on my old bindings was ~8.5. With this in mind, the Baron should give me enough DIN, even if I do require a slightly higher DIN setting as the year progresses? (I plan on improving, and so may require a higher DIN as I go harder). I ask because I have heard that it is wise to not have the bindings to near to their threshold, as it puts undesirable stress on the bindings, is that true?
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by shafty85 View Post
So, during my reading I have been reminded of the fact (more times than I have fingers or toes to count on) that I have as much knowledge about ski equipment as the fly currently annoying me. I have read that to ski AT bindings (such as the Barons), I require AT boots. Do I need these boots only for when I tour, or do alpine boots not fit AT bindings? And what exactly are skins? My god, I am starving for knowledge. Oh, and pow, as season starts in 17 days.
Skins are what you put on the bottom of your skis to be able to climb uphill. Many, but not all AT & alpine boots are compatable with most, but not all alpine bindings (and some AT bindings). It is possible to do short tours with Alpine boots (and SKINS) in Dukes/Barrons, but for longer tours, you will want a dedicated AT set-up (lighter touring bindings, SKINS, and an AT boot).

Not to be rude, but if you don't know what skins are, you may not need a binding with touring capabilities. If you aren't going to tour, it is probably better to get the Griffon (12 din) or Jester (16 din which you likely don't need) as they will be lighter than the Duke/Barron and sit flatter on the ski (which most prefer for powder/off piste although the Dukes got a lot of good reviews).

The Marker Griffon is made for wide skis like the Gotama but is less expensive because it does not have a touring mode. See my post http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=74992 if you are interested in purchasing.
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by MEfree30 View Post
Not to be rude, but if you don't know what skins are, you may not need a binding with touring capabilities.
well now that he knows what skins are (b/c you told him), your above statement is irrelevant, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by shafty85 View Post
I have read that to ski AT bindings (such as the Barons), I require AT boots.
nope. you can use regular alpine boots in your barons/dukes. some AT systems require specific AT boots (i.e. dynafit), but not the markers.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by bamBooster View Post
well now that he knows what skins are (b/c you told him), your above statement is irrelevant, isn't it?
ok, maybe I should have said that unless you are planning on buying skins, there is no point buying AT bindings...I find it interesting that someone would be considering AT bindings without knowing what skins are...you gotta start somewhere, so maybe he is not on track to do some touring.
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hey, I am just starting to look into the touring gear (thus my lack of knowledge about skins). And as I am putting bindings on my Gotamas I thought it would be a good investment to get the AT bindings, even if I just use them a couple times this season for touring, so that next season I can really get into it. $ is tight as a student, so I can't go all out every year on all the gear.
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