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post #61 of 68
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post
Actually, you didn't buy a Volvo in the first place. The SUV's are fords with volvo badging. I wouldn't touch one of those.
Wrong. It is based on a Volvo large car platform that predates the Ford purchase. Ford now uses a cheapened form of that platform for some cars, but that egg came after the chicken.

This isn't to say it is any good. It wasn't even good IMO in its original guise as the S80.
post #62 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dave86 View Post
I don't drive old, junky cars. Seriously.
the point is 60k mile is not that many mile. I have seen people put that on a car in a year.

just because a car has high mileage doenst mean its old or junky but it probably does mean its not a ford. come back to me if either of those car reach 180k. they wont though be cause they will fall apart or feel like 'junk' long before that time.
post #63 of 68
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Originally Posted by Trapps View Post
Which consumers bought...and are still buying.
At profitable prices? Quick check of a target price on a base Cobalt right now shows a target a couple grand below MSRP and 1200 below invoice. I remember people buying Cavaliers for two-thirds the list price just a couple years ago.
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When Iaccoca went to the feds he asked for a loan. It was paid back. Ahead of schedule.
They went and asked for 1.5 billion with an explicitly discussed threat of bankruptcy. They didn't ask for 25, 50, or is it now 100 billion for "development of new, energy efficient vehicles". It seems to me there is a difference in both the scale and the level of BS in play. Also, while it was certainly a success for shareholders, I'm far less certain it was a success for the consumer.
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I'm still waiting for my shares in some of the nations most prominent banks which it appears I now own.
Good luck with that.
post #64 of 68
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
Wrong. It is based on a Volvo large car platform that predates the Ford purchase. Ford now uses a cheapened form of that platform for some cars, but that egg came after the chicken.

This isn't to say it is any good. It wasn't even good IMO in its original guise as the S80.
Except that the XC 90 has a Ford engine and a GM transmission.
post #65 of 68
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post
Except that the XC 90 has a Ford engine and a GM transmission.


At launch, it had a Volvo engine and a application engineered Volvo transmission provided by GM. Now it has a Yamaha V8 (produced in Japan) that Ford had originally planned on putting in some luxury cars, but none have materialized. The original twin turbo transverse inline six plus slushbox configuration was insane. The subsequent choice of another high power transverse powertrain with parts bin slushbox wasn't too likely to work out well either.

The only badge engineered Ford trucks are Mazdas. You don't know what you are talking about.
post #66 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dave86 View Post
I don't drive old, junky cars. Seriously.
So you are saying fords feel old and junky at 60k miles? I have had people ask me if my almost 500k mile car is new, just saying.
post #67 of 68
So where is the consumer's reports for folks who want to keep there cars for a few hundred k?
How long should ball joints last if you spend a fair bit of time pushing the envelope in corners?
What about U-joints?
Radiators in salty climes?
other parts?
post #68 of 68
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
So where is the consumer's reports for folks who want to keep there cars for a few hundred k?
How long should ball joints last if you spend a fair bit of time pushing the envelope in corners?
What about U-joints?
Radiators in salty climes?
other parts?
Basically interwebz forums.
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