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post #1 of 19
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I need to get new pants this year... Any suggestions? I have shorter legs, so I don't want anything too long... I wear a 33"/34" waist with a 30" inseam. Previous pants were Oakley's with a thin bit of insulation... Awesome pants. I also want black, maybe with a slight bit of pattern to it, but I have 8 different coats, and black will go with them all...
post #2 of 19
I have the opposite problem (I need big+tall, not skinny+short), but Arc'Teryx seems to have a pretty wide sizing selection and makes both tall and short lengths in almost all their ski pants. I just got some of their softshell pants for this season.

Not cheap, though.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Need some help here... What pants are you using this year and how do you like them? Any design flaws etc?

I need to find a pants buyers guide or something....
post #4 of 19
try spyder. some of their lines are shorter.
post #5 of 19
I saw a pair of waterproof thinly insulated soft shell Cloudveil that may suit you. I'm about the same length but a bit wider at the gerth. They were a bit tight on me.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by Supraman View Post
I need to get new pants this year... Any suggestions? I have shorter legs, so I don't want anything too long... I wear a 33"/34" waist with a 30" inseam. Previous pants were Oakley's with a thin bit of insulation... Awesome pants. I also want black, maybe with a slight bit of pattern to it, but I have 8 different coats, and black will go with them all...
PM Ski-Ra, he has recently researched just about every pant that comes in short. I know that a few Arc'teryx pants do. Good luck.
post #7 of 19
I wear a 33 length, 29 waist. Pants that have worked for me are the following (I own all of these and they fit me):

1. Arcteryx Theta SK Bib/pant in Medium waist, short length.

2. Smarty 686 "Original" Snowboard Pants in "medium." They are a bit long on me (just a bit--say 1"), so they should be perfect for you.

3. Any of the various versions of Sessions Snowboard Pants in the "small" size. They fit baggy, so the smalls fit my waist, and the length is short enough. These are often available on Tramdock for cheap. I got mine on SAC for $50 or less before all the ski and snowboard stuff got moved to Tramdock and Whiskey Militia.

4. Burton size "small" "cargo" snowboard pants also fit me (for the same reasons the Sessions snowboard pants fit). Your waist is a bit bigger than mine, so you might need a medium. Sports Basement often has good deals on Burton stuff (better than Backcountry).

5. Marker makes ski pants in short lengths. I have a pair, but the small was too tight and the medium is a bit too wide for me, so I rarely wear them. The medium might fit you better than it does me.

You should try on the pants I suggested before you buy them. I picked up my Smarty 686's at an end-of-season sale at the local Ski Market after trying on just about every other pair of pants in the store (which is how I found out that Burton's cargo pants also fit--they only had menthol green left at that point).

One last thing, snowboard pants usually don't have edge guards so they tend to get cut up a bit by ski edges. It isn't too bad, but don't expect them to last more than 3 seasons or so.

Best of luck,

STE
post #8 of 19
Whoops, I meant 33 waist, 29 length. Can't figure out how to work the *&^% edit function. Drat!
post #9 of 19
Arc'Teryx Stingray are really great pants.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Supraman View Post
I need to get new pants this year... Any suggestions? I have shorter legs, so I don't want anything too long... I wear a 33"/34" waist with a 30" inseam. Previous pants were Oakley's with a thin bit of insulation... Awesome pants. I also want black, maybe with a slight bit of pattern to it, but I have 8 different coats, and black will go with them all...
As mentioned by Olylady above I recently did do an extensive search to find a pair of short inseam ski pants. You can read about my challenge in the various posts at http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=73114. I ended up with a pair of TNF Varius Guide pants - they fit perfectly even if they are not quite the quality that I like to buy (but they were pretty much my only choice).

My conclusion is, that unless you like the "snowboarder" look (i.e., baggy and long), you will indeed be happier with a short pant given your 30" inseam. You will also be discouraged to find that the number of companies willing to make such a pant are shrinking by the minute. Fortunately, if you don't care whether or not they come with suspenders or are insulated then there are still a decent number of choices from Arcteryx, Marker, Patagonia, Spyder and TNF (TNF alone makes six or more pants in a short size).

Unfortunately:
  1. If you want a suspendered pant then Patagonia drops off the list.
  2. If you want an insulated pant then Arcteryx and Patagonia drops off the list.
  3. If you want both insulation and suspenders then your only choices are a model or two from Marker and Spyder.
  4. Good luck finding any of these pants in a store. Even in Denver the only pair of suspendered short pants I could find were an insulated model by Spyder (and insulation is not my thing, so I ordered my TNF's from their website). I would assume that your chances are even slimmer in Penticton.
  5. The models available in a short length are typically in the "lower end" of the company's product line. For example, the Spyders use non-waterproof side zippers that are not protected by a velcroed flap. If you want a pant with a high-tech waterproof membrane (i.e., Goretex), then your only choice is probably Arcteryx.
Good luck and report back with your findings however frustrating they might be (been there)!
post #11 of 19
ski-ra...you rock!
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by cjb View Post
Arc'Teryx Stingray are really great pants.
Just got a pair of these (in "long", since I'm 6'6".) Nice pants, also come in short sizes -- if you can find them in stock anywhere.
post #13 of 19
I wear levis 34w 30length loose cut becuase my legs are too burly to fit into 501s. I just bought these pants for this season. Seem pretty bomber and fit great.

http://www.outdoorresearch.com/site/...rio_pants.html
post #14 of 19
I recently purchased a pair of Marmot Randonee pants in Medium, short length. I think they can best be described as short bibs. They are uninsulated 2 ply goretex pro shells, and are sized to fit layers underneath (but not baggy). They have 4 pockets (two side pockets, right rear and a high right key pocket). I will have to modify mine to move the velcro on the suspenders, but that is a minor problem. They are a bit hard to find, but I know they are out there.
post #15 of 19
If it helps you at all, I wear size 33/34 and have a 31" inseam. I wore the Arc'Teryx Stingray pants and they fit fine. I have a pair up for sale in the classified's section. If they didn't fit, I would offer a full refund as long as you don't mind paying for the shipping.

CJ
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by extremetito View Post
I recently purchased a pair of Marmot Randonee pants in Medium, short length.... They are a bit hard to find, but I know they are out there.
I was made aware of these pants during my search but couldn't find them in a small (finding pants that are both small and short is like having two strikes against you). I believe that they are hard to find because Marmot no longer make these in a short size (that's what their website seems to indicate). So I assume that what is out there is last year's version. I just now did a brief search and found them only in large and XL from only one internet outlet, so unless something pops up from a more thorough search they won't work for Supraman either.

BTW - where did you find your mediums which is what Supraman needs (and maybe they still have them in a small since these are closer to the quality of pant that I wanted)?
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by olylady View Post
ski-ra...you rock!
Cool, though the rocking is slowly getting closer to that which is done in a chair than that with a guitar, skis, my booty, etc....
Take Care!
post #18 of 19
The Randonee pants I purchased are this year's model.
I talked to Marmot customer service today and they noted that the small size only came in one length this year (30"). The medium and large do come in short, regular and long. Medium/short: inseam is 29.5". Marmot had two of these still in inventory this morning. I special ordered mine from Marmot Mountain Works in Berkeley. They are having a 15% off storewide sale right now through Nov. 24. I don't know if they do mail order. I believe I saw medium/short Randonees listed on Buckmans.com.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by extremetito View Post
The Randonee pants I purchased are this year's model.
I talked to Marmot customer service today and they noted that the small size only came in one length this year (30"). The medium and large do come in short, regular and long.
Right your are (saw the medium/short on the Buckman's website)! I wonder why Marmot's website doesn't state that they make this pant in a short inseam?

No matter since it only helps you, Supraman (if he's still reading his thread) and others. As for me..., more justification for my Napoleon complex!
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