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Blizzard IQ durability

post #1 of 49
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Blizzards is promoting the flexibility of the IQ system with the ability to switch binding from ski to ski and from binding to binding. I bought into this for my wifes skis, last year she got some Eos's and this year I am going to give her some Viva 7.6's for her birthday (shhhh, it's a surprise) Part of the thought process is for travel weight, I can put 4 pair of skis into a bag, her two, flat w/o bindings and my two pair.

Where I have a concern is taking the center screw in and out. There does not seem to be any reinforcement in the ski, the screw just goes into fiberglass. I plan on being uber careful, but I can see this getting stripped. I don't see why they couldn't have used a threaded bolt into an integrated threaded nut or even a simple "quick release" toggle.

Has anyone who has spent time with this system over the past couple of years seen these skis strip? If so, is it a warranty issue?
post #2 of 49
No, but "?"

What size is the thread the holds the binding in place? There is also a rail of sorts to hold it all down, correct?

EDIT: The rail holds the binding ON the ski, but the screw holds the binding IN the rail, right?
post #3 of 49
First of all, if you stripped the hole, I don't see how that would be a warranty issue. Second, if you did, couldn't you just helicoil it?
post #4 of 49
Mr TC and I have had the Blizzard Cronus and Eos, respectively, with no issue, but then, we haven't been removing the bindings.
post #5 of 49
I switched bindings on the system all last year. Never had any problem. This years freeride line does have inserts and next year all of their skis will have them. I think the biggest thing is to rememeber not to torque the screw to hard. The rails hold the binding on the ski screw just keeps it from moving fore and aft.
In our demo fleet of last years blizzard we were all moving bindings between the dukes, or someone wanted a 4 12 on a womens ski intead of the 310 binding. Zero problems.
PS I think the 7.6 is the sweetest womans ski on the market this year.
post #6 of 49
Ptex's comment is interesting; last year's hole as Phil says just goes into the ski, and IMO thread grooves would have to loosen with repeated in/out; it's just glass and wood. But if there's a liner (plastic? metal?) this year, different story, should not be an issue for several seasons at least. Phil, does your wife keep her skis longer than you (approx 5 minutes)
post #7 of 49
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Originally Posted by ptex1 View Post
I switched bindings on the system all last year. Never had any problem. This years freeride line does have inserts and next year all of their skis will have them. I think the biggest thing is to rememeber not to torque the screw to hard. The rails hold the binding on the ski screw just keeps it from moving fore and aft.
In our demo fleet of last years blizzard we were all moving bindings between the dukes, or someone wanted a 4 12 on a womens ski intead of the 310 binding. Zero problems.
PS I think the 7.6 is the sweetest womans ski on the market this year.
I am very impressed with the 7.6 to the point I am strongly considering getting a pair of 8.7's for myself, I am >< close

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Originally Posted by epic View Post
First of all, if you stripped the hole, I don't see how that would be a warranty issue. Second, if you did, couldn't you just helicoil it?
I am seeing that it is currently a questionable design, to the point where I can tighten the screw into Lola's Eos's by hand and these never had the bindings off the ski and were only installed by the shop I got them at.
post #8 of 49
ptex1 is the man! He took care of a screwup last year on some skis I ordered and hooked me up with a great deal on some 2009 Cronus skis. And they have a 2 position metal inserts to screw into. The binding system looks real solid and I like the fact that 95% of the stress is on the rails and not the screw(s). I can't wait to try these out in Jackson in Jan.

I also went with your tactic, Phil, and just found myself a sick, barely used pair of Blizzard Answer fat twins with Dukes for little more than the price of the Dukes alone!

I'll probably put both these in one ski bag with only the Dukes and throw the IQ 5.14 bindings in another bag to keep the weight down. If these skis are as good as they look, I may commit to this system for a long time. Being able to use either binding on either ski with the twist of a screwdriver is pretty exciting!
post #9 of 49
[quote=Philpug;987993]I am very impressed with the 7.6 to the point I am strongly considering getting a pair of 8.7's for myself, I am >< close

Yo Phil,

You'd love the 8.7s, and might want to get more than 1...
They would be almost as much fun as driving the Miata, flexing the Molnars, and eating kettlekorn all at once...??

Check with ptex1, and I'll give you a referral

Neil
post #10 of 49
Thread Starter 
And another thing I noticed....
Look how much further back the new MX type Marker is than the old Blizzard binding. Both bindings are set for the same sole length and mount point.



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post #11 of 49
Photos not showing up for me, Phil.
post #12 of 49
Thread Starter 
hmm, not sure what the picture issue is, trying to solve it
post #13 of 49
I'm unauthorized too! Oh well!
post #14 of 49
Thread Starter 
Pic link fixed^^
post #15 of 49
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
And another thing I noticed....
Look how much further back the new MX type Marker is than the old Blizzard binding. Both bindings are set for the same sole length and mount point.


Hmmm... that is weird. Is there a midsole mark on the ski? and if so, where does that line up with the boot?
post #16 of 49
Youch! What is that, about 2 to 3 cm? Looks pretty substantial. One has to be "wrong."
I hope it's the older one since the pair I just got has the new Markers.
post #17 of 49
Thread Starter 
Both bindings are set for the same BSL per the binding design.
post #18 of 49
curiouser, and curiouser......hmmmm.
post #19 of 49

interesting

not sure what it means though. I thought the chronus skied short last year maybe thats why. Ill forward this pic to the product manager at blizzi and get his take and explanation.
post #20 of 49
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Both bindings are set for the same BSL per the binding design.
I knew that. What I was wondering is the difference in where the boot lines up from one binding to the other.
post #21 of 49
Thread Starter 
The Marker has the center of the boot behind the Blizzard one.
post #22 of 49
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
The Marker has the center of the boot behind the Blizzard one.
What is this? Abbott and Costello?
post #23 of 49
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Originally Posted by carvemeister View Post
What is this? Abbott and Costello?
Yeah, no kidding....

IS THERE A MID-SOLE MARK ON THE SKI?

ON WHICH BINDING DOES THE MID-SOLE MARK ON YOUR BOOT LINE UP CORRECTLY?

OBVIOUSLY BOTH CAN'T.
post #24 of 49
The real question here is:
Is this Hendricks season or Scotch season?
post #25 of 49
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Originally Posted by carvemeister View Post
What is this? Abbott and Costello?
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
Yeah, no kidding....

IS THERE A MID-SOLE MARK ON THE SKI?

ON WHICH BINDING DOES THE MID-SOLE MARK ON YOUR BOOT LINE UP CORRECTLY?

OBVIOUSLY BOTH CAN'T.
Staying the Abbott and Costello theme...

It has nothing to do with CANT, the upper shell alignment is the same.
post #26 of 49
Does the EOS have more than one mounting hole?
post #27 of 49
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
Does the EOS have more than one mounting hole?
It does and I have these both in the same one.

I will post a picture later on where the boot mid point is in relationship to the center point on the ski.
post #28 of 49
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Staying the Abbott and Costello theme...

It has nothing to do with CANT, the upper shell alignment is the same.
Nicely done....
post #29 of 49

I guess the beauty of blizzard is

It is the only system that allows you to drill holes wherever you want. If you want to move the marker forward drill another hole. Unlimited mounting positions. That being said I will find out from Jed on Monday the reasoning.
post #30 of 49
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Originally Posted by ptex1 View Post
It is the only system that allows you to drill holes wherever you want. If you want to move the marker forward drill another hole. Unlimited mounting positions. That being said I will find out from Jed on Monday the reasoning.
I might look at putting a helicoil in (As Epic said) so I can take the screw in and out .
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