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Adjusting Head Freeflex Pro 14 Bindings

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
I have a new pair of 08/09 supershape magnums with freeflex pro 14 bindings and they dont appear to have a "fine" adjustment for forward pressure on the rear binding. The front toepiece is linked to the rear binding and is set for boot length. I am a 334 mm boot and the smaller setting is slightly too tight and at the limit of the indicator for forward pressure. the longer boot setting doesnt engage the forward pressure tab at all.

The skis came with a factory plate that had pre drilled mounting points roughly 10mm spaced to take ht bindings. On the older tyrolia bindings i am used to you popped up the indicator tab on the heel binding and moved it to the correct position but the FF binding doesnt appear to have any adjustment

Am i missing something?
post #2 of 22
The 08/09 technical manual for Head/Tyrolia is here:

http://www.tyrolia.com/certification...al.english.pdf

But according to the text its the same old "lift the tab and push the heel" adjustment. Specifically.....

Place the boot in the binding and close it. The indicating
pointer should rest within the scribed area (pict 11) if not,
you have to adjust the forward pressure.
DON’T OPEN THE LENGTH ADJUSTMENT LOCK AS LONG
AS A SKI BOOT IS FIXED IN THE BINDING.
Place the ski boot in the open binding and rest the boot
heel on the brake treadle. Lift the length adjustment lock
(2) with a screwdriver and slide the heel until the heel cup
just touches the boot. Lock the length adjustment by
pushing it down. Latch the boot in the binding and check
forward pressure again. The toe pincers should not be
pressed open and the indicating pointer should rest within
the scribed area (pict 11).
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks squawker, i will have a good read and a a closer look. a friend who does a lot of binding installations, had a look and couldnt get the tab to release so perhaps i have a problem...
post #4 of 22
Don't you need a ski of 17m+ sidecut anyways?
post #5 of 22
Thread Starter 
no after announcing the new sidecut rules BASI backed off and for this season it is a "recommendation" and following season it is a requirement for ISIA and ISTD courses..
post #6 of 22
Did you ever find an answer. I am running into the same thing.

Lee
post #7 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeX View Post
Did you ever find an answer. I am running into the same thing.

Lee
You must be sure you have placed the toe piece into the correct hiooles for your bootsole length in the band that comes off the heel piece that is used to connect the toe & heel.

sound like you have the toe in the wrong holes.
post #8 of 22
Bindings came on the ski. I am used to the popup tab on the back of Tyrolia's, but these will not pop up..It looks like it was setup for about a 310-315 boot, and I am 307, so I just need to move the heel a few mm. I read the tyrolia instructions above, but it really does not show the FF 14.. If the tab is supposed to popup, it does not..
Thanks

Lee
post #9 of 22
I figured it out..With the new bindings it takes a bit more effort to get the tabs to pop up..After a couple of times they popup pretty easy.

Thanks

Lee
post #10 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeX View Post
I figured it out..With the new bindings it takes a bit more effort to get the tabs to pop up..After a couple of times they popup pretty easy.

Thanks

Lee
I have always used a big a_ _ flathead screwdriver and it pops right up!

Looks like ya got it!
post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 
LeeX thanks for posting that!!!

I had really cranked on mine and was worried that they would be damaged so gave up last week as it was close enough. This morning gave it some serious force and they finally broke loose.
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by skimottaret View Post
LeeX thanks for posting that!!!

I had really cranked on mine and was worried that they would be damaged so gave up last week as it was close enough. This morning gave it some serious force and they finally broke loose.

Good on ya.. I just lost patience, and knew it had to come up..If all else fails get a bigger tool.. right
Just don't say BROKE loose..
post #13 of 22

FF14 boot test

With the boots in, does the tab on the back of the bindings need to be within the last six lines, or does the tab need to be flush. If I set the bindings on one setting the tab is flush. If I move it back one notch it has about 4 lines showing. I looked at my daughters which was setup at a shop, and it has a few lines poking out..Which is it?

Lee
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
should be around the middle of the lines but anywhere within the lines is okay. Flush is bad...
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by skimottaret View Post
should be around the middle of the lines but anywhere within the lines is okay. Flush is bad...
This is correct!!!!
post #16 of 22
Thats what I thought..
Thanks

Lee
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
slight problem with the head mounting plate. I shimmed the toes on my skis by 5mm and called head from some +5mm toe piece screws. They never turned up and i "improvised" with some +3mm ish screws off an old pair of skis. After 10 days or so one toe piece binding had pulled out from the plastic plate mount holes....

Head has agreed to replace plate and send over proper length screws. THe head rep said that retailers are always stripping out the plates when mounting bindings.

Be very careful with screwing into the plastic riser plate the holes will strip easily.....
post #18 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by skimottaret View Post
slight problem with the head mounting plate. I shimmed the toes on my skis by 5mm and called head from some +5mm toe piece screws. They never turned up and i "improvised" with some +3mm ish screws off an old pair of skis. After 10 days or so one toe piece binding had pulled out from the plastic plate mount holes....

Head has agreed to replace plate and send over proper length screws. THe head rep said that retailers are always stripping out the plates when mounting bindings.

Be very careful with screwing into the plastic riser plate the holes will strip easily.....
What bindings are you using? If FreeFlex, how did the metal FreeFlex band interface with the toe binding after shimming 5mm?
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
the standard FF that the skis came with. The rolling anti friction device sits a few mm high from the ski but all seems to work fine. there is a small gap between the metal band and the riser plate but didnt pose any problems when skiing.
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by skimottaret View Post
the standard FF that the skis came with. The rolling anti friction device sits a few mm high from the ski but all seems to work fine. there is a small gap between the metal band and the riser plate but didnt pose any problems when skiing.
Aaahhh...you placed the shim between the carve plate and the metal band then, rather than keep the band flat on the plate. I guess you had to do this so the metal band would remain attached to the toe binding, correct?
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
yup seemed the only way to do it. I did think about putting a wedge shaped shim under the AFD but it was too much hassle so didnt bother.
post #22 of 22

Squawker and LeeX, thanks for posting the responses to this thread.  Very helpful! 

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