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Nordica Enforcers

post #1 of 14
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Can anybody comment on the difference between the performance of the 07/08 Nordica Enforcers and the 08/09s?

I was told that the curved up tail of the 07s helps the ski complete turns more easily. The tail of the 08 is flat. Does anybody think that makes any difference?
post #2 of 14
I think it's a totallty different ski. It's not like they just took the old ski and flattened the tail. I've skied both, but I don't think I can compare as I was only able to ski the new one in an icy race course, and it didn't really compare to my GS skis very well. I will say this it's just as damp as teh old ski, but feels even bigger. I don't usually say a ski feels slw edge to edge, but this one did. I think that overall, like the old ski, this is more of a "charge the crud" ski than a powder ski, and despite the somewhat small turn radius, it doesn't love short turns.
post #3 of 14
I haven't seen this years Enforcer. I have a pair of 2 year old Enforcers that I think are ripping skis but are too short for me at 169. I am considering buying a longer pair of Enforcers or a pair of Gotomas. Does anyone have an opion about the Enforcer vs Gotoma? My wife just got a pair of Gotomas and I think they are a fairly ugly ski. If anyone is interested in my 169 Enforcers let me know. They could be picked up or demoed at the gathering if I still have them then.
post #4 of 14
I had both. I got rid of the Enforcers and kept the Gotamas. For such a big ski, the Enforcer wasn't very good as a powder ski. In fact, I'd say it was bad. It slays crud though.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I had both. I got rid of the Enforcers and kept the Gotamas. For such a big ski, the Enforcer wasn't very good as a powder ski. In fact, I'd say it was bad. It slays crud though.
I know this is a bit of an old post but was curious why you didn't like it in powder. Any other feedback from members would be appreciated. I read Dawgs review and they were very positive. I checked them out at a shop and I realy like the flex pattern but I cannot find a place in the northeast that demos them.
post #6 of 14
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I know this is a bit of an old post but was curious why you didn't like it in powder.
Too stiff. When the tips started to dive there was no chance of staying anywhere near the surface.
post #7 of 14
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Too stiff. When the tips started to dive there was no chance of staying anywhere near the surface.
That's very interesting. Checking the flex of the Enforcer vs the Mantra and the Gotama in the tip and tail, the Enforcer seems the softest.
post #8 of 14
I dunno, I got rid of mine. I'm talking about the older twintip one are you talking about that ski or the flat-tail?
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I dunno, I got rid of mine. I'm talking about the older twintip one are you talking about that ski or the flat-tail?
Yes, the 08/09 version. Don't know much about the ski. They could have redesigned the whole ski along with the tail. Can't find one to demo in the NH area but do like the flex pattern of the ski.
post #10 of 14
I've got a pair of 169 Enforcers with Look PX-12 bindings for sale. I skied them about 6-8 days last year. I really liked the ski, but found it a bit too short for me. I'm looking to sell them for $400. They will be available at the gathering.
post #11 of 14
FWIW I have the 07-08 Enforcers with the turned up tail. I haven't had a chance to ski them in anything really deep, but so far I absolutely love this ski. I will confirm that it slays crud. It's pretty damp and can rail on hard pack. I have the 185 which I think skis a little shorter due to the tail, and at times have felt about to go over the handle bars when really getting aggressive, but when you stay on center they are a smooth ride. I've only gotten a little chatter once on some 'ice' (more like frozen hardpack, not the clear blue bullet proof stuff).

I agree that they don't really like short turns, but b/c of the sidecut the will do them, but there's not much rebound on short turns and they are more damp than lively when doing so.

So far, these skis really excel ripping huge GS turns at high speed through any crud or chop. No tip deflection and they are very damp and 'easy' to ski. While they're not super quick edge to edge, I found them 'ok' at bumps. Turn initiation was good, and they finish a turn nice, but definitely damp, not a lot of pop to really throw you into that next turn.

Hopefully this season I will get the chance to ski them in some really deep stuff. I've heard all the reviews that they're not the 'best' in deep, but I figure for the few days I get to ski really deep stuff they will 'suffice'. I was willing to take that compromise since they perform so great in crud and rail on the groomers.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by jayhawkskier View Post
FWIW I have the 07-08 Enforcers with the turned up tail. I haven't had a chance to ski them in anything really deep, but so far I absolutely love this ski. I will confirm that it slays crud. It's pretty damp and can rail on hard pack. I have the 185 which I think skis a little shorter due to the tail, and at times have felt about to go over the handle bars when really getting aggressive, but when you stay on center they are a smooth ride. I've only gotten a little chatter once on some 'ice' (more like frozen hardpack, not the clear blue bullet proof stuff).

I agree that they don't really like short turns, but b/c of the sidecut the will do them, but there's not much rebound on short turns and they are more damp than lively when doing so.

So far, these skis really excel ripping huge GS turns at high speed through any crud or chop. No tip deflection and they are very damp and 'easy' to ski. While they're not super quick edge to edge, I found them 'ok' at bumps. Turn initiation was good, and they finish a turn nice, but definitely damp, not a lot of pop to really throw you into that next turn.

Hopefully this season I will get the chance to ski them in some really deep stuff. I've heard all the reviews that they're not the 'best' in deep, but I figure for the few days I get to ski really deep stuff they will 'suffice'. I was willing to take that compromise since they perform so great in crud and rail on the groomers.

Thanks for your review/feedback!
post #13 of 14
I have the 06-07 red Enforcers in a 177 length. The deepest I've had the chance to skis is knee deep and they certainly didn't dive in that depth. I think they are a great powder/crud ski and really shine on the run outs where they feel like a wide GS ski. Don't know about the new flat tail ski but that would be an imporvement for skiing at Snowbasin where loading the twin tips into the gondola racks can be a pain.
post #14 of 14

I have the Enforcer's with the curved tail.  I think they work well in powder, but they are a stiff ski.  My Salomon Czar's definately work better in powder, but they have tip rocker.  The Enforcer is a great everyday ski.  Gotta love the "rooster tail" effect as I pass people on the catwalks!

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