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UNDER YOU BOOTS???

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
I feel that my feet get cold quicker than others .
I have heard that poor circulation is a large factor in cold feet. For that reason I have switched to thinner socks.

Does anyone have any ideas about how to wear thermal underwear. Socks under thermals, thermals under socks, or no thermals in boots at all?

I know this seams like a weird post, but am curious to see if this may affect my cold feet or my boot fit.
post #2 of 20
My suggestion would be: no thermals in your boots
post #3 of 20
Some people don't like any overlap at all; some even cut off the bottom of their LJs.

I like a few inches of overlap. I pull my LJs all the way down to my ankles, roll my socks over them, then the important part. I pull up on my LJs so that 3-4" overlap and make absolutely certain there are no wrinkles or bumps and the overlap is 100% totally smooth. I find I don't notice the overlap at all if it is in the upper half of the cuff part of my boots and it's smooth. Note, I only use light or ultra light LJs. I always use thin socks.

If your feet are cold you can try making sure your boots are very warm when you put them on. Once you lose circulation, your feet will never warm back up with your boots on. But if you start out warm, they may stay warm.

External insulators do help but only a little bit and only if your boots are warm when you put them on. I use Boot Gloves when I need just a little bit have help.

If you have $$$ and really need help invest in electric heaters.

I've heard there's some kind of reflective stuff you can put under your foot-bed to keep the bottom stop heat lose through the bottom of your feet, I'd like to try them but don't know what they are. Anyone want to follow up with this info.
post #4 of 20
I used to side step or fishbone up the hill for a few minutes when my feet (or anything else) got extremely cold. As for overlap in the boots I do my LJs like L2T. It is the kink in the sock lower on the foot that kills me in the foot discomfort department. The rest can usually be resolved by pulling on the calf of the sock and long john while wiggling the foot around.

FWIW, in the very old days if ice hockey on the lake in sub zero weather many folks used to apply a layer of vasiline petroleum jelly to the foot and toes before putting on the socks. It definitely makes a big difference and keeps your feet warmer, but it has obvious negative effects, foot would slide around in a ski boot, boot liners would get gooey and possibly break down the foam and petroleum based products boots are now made of..

But, man it sure did help keep feet warm during hockey practice and games on the lake on cold nights.

I'd just loosen the buckles and walk around some with or without skis on to get the blood flowing around down there when your feet start getting cold.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks so far good advice.
I have tried the reflective method. basically wraped the boot liner with mylar. I don't think it helped that much, and makes it harder to place and remover the boot liner.
I will try less or no overlap, and also moving around to get circulation going.
post #6 of 20
Do a lot of skiing in the Rockies and it gets pretty damned cold. Went for electric boot heaters which are like under floor heating for boots. Really great and keep your feet toasty even on the super cold days-well worth the investment. If you have the battery packs clipped onto the back make sure the lift doesn't clip em when it comes round! Think mine are Hotronic? or similar name..
post #7 of 20
I had the same problem; Hotronic boot heaters definitely stopped this. They cost about $150 but it was worth every dime. No more cold feet. I was skeptical....but I've been happy with the outcome.
post #8 of 20
My LJs are all sawed off below the knee. I don't want anything in there other than sock. I've tried barefoot, but I can't get my feet in without socks.
post #9 of 20
I usually have my LJ's underneath the socks, and I pull up on the LJ's so that they're not wrinkled underneath the sock. Works pretty good for me so far! Of course, when it's really cold it still feels like my toes are freezing.
post #10 of 20
no thermas in the bootsbuy hotronics or intuition liners. both around $200.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
no thermals in the boots. buy hotronics or intuition liners. both around $200.
There's your answer. From another skier with chronically frost-bitten big toes, good luck!
post #12 of 20
+3 for the Intuition liners. They are really warm. I put some in my B/C boots and also use them in snowboard hard boots. I have never had cold feet when using them. Besides the warmth, you have the fun of molding them yourself if you want. Usually a three beer operation to do both feet.

I found after three seasons they were packed out and needed to be remolded. This is no problem as they can be done at least four times. There are good directions on how to mold them at www.yyzcanuck.com
post #13 of 20
I have a couple pairs of long underwear that are boot top (also called "3/4") length that are my personal preference. The full length ones I fold up (not roll - wide folds avoid pressure points that won't do favours to your circulation) to above the boot. Generally ensures the most consistent feel in my boots.
post #14 of 20
I have a pair of thermals that I very rarely use, my snow pants are usually sufficient to keep me warm. I basically just warm up the boots using the air vents in the car while driving up to the hill, and that's it.

It's a stinky ride, though!
post #15 of 20
Thermals outside of boots, Intuition liners, Hottronic heaters and Bootgloves (As you can see I do get cold feet)--With this setup, its like being at The Spa. I feel "pampered" all day.
post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
thank you to everyone for your replies
Although I hatecold feet, I can't wait for it to get freezing so we can start to have a ton of snow!
post #17 of 20
Hotronic's here, worth every penny especially when your standing around at the start of a race run or with the kids.

I also run barefoot in my plugs. (without long johns tucked in)
A tip to get your foot into the boot barefooted is to wear knee high nylons.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by SJB View Post
Hotronic's here, worth every penny especially when your standing around at the start of a race run or with the kids.

I also run barefoot in my plugs. (without long johns tucked in)
A tip to get your foot into the boot barefooted is to wear knee high nylons.
I'm confused. If you're wearing nylons, aren't you no longer barefoot?
post #19 of 20
Nothing in your boots except your feet and thin socks (SmartWool Ultralights for moi).

I wear semi-plug boots with extremely thin liners and often ski at Whiteface, so I also endorse the Boot Glove. Call me gaper if you want, several others here already have, but my feet stay decently warm with them. The boots were fit without boot heaters, so adding them would screw things up.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
My LJs are all sawed off below the knee. I don't want anything in there other than sock. I've tried barefoot, but I can't get my feet in without socks.
I did the barefoot thing all last season, it's more of a hassle getting them off, than putting the boots on. Pretty much I just keep the boots on all day, and just loosen them a bit while I'm taking a break.
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