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Watea's 78 and IM 78's

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Narrowed my ski search down to these 2 skis(considering the IM77's also).

Which ski would you consider better on a groomers, both hard pack and soft groomers??

Pretty much have a good grasp on the other aspects of these skis for my needs.

On the Watea's what binding would you recommend for a very solid 8.5 skier? Would you recommend going with a railflex system? What binding would offer a better edge grip on harder snow?
post #2 of 11
Good post, I was wondering the samething myself!
post #3 of 11
I like the Head 78 over the Fischer here.
post #4 of 11
I have skied them both. I own the IM 78. I personally like the tighter turning radius. The Wates 78 is a solid mid fat all mountain ski. I find the IM 78 to be better at more things. It has better edge grip, it is better in bumps with the tighter turning radius, it is a better hard snow carver (and it carves great tight arcs) and floatation and soft/fresh snow performance is about the same. The Wateas are lighter skis and therefore a little easier feeling in soft snow.

I really do think that the IM 78 is the best, do everything all mountain ski I have been on.
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Originally Posted by Hedgedskier View Post
I have skied them both. I own the IM 78. I personally like the tighter turning radius. The Wates 78 is a solid mid fat all mountain ski. I find the IM 78 to be better at more things. It has better edge grip, it is better in bumps with the tighter turning radius, it is a better hard snow carver (and it carves great tight arcs) and floatation and soft/fresh snow performance is about the same. The Wateas are lighter skis and therefore a little easier feeling in soft snow.

I really do think that the IM 78 is the best, do everything all mountain ski I have been on.
I have skied the Wateas and own the Head. I completely agree.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
Great info guys. That was the way I was leaning and felt after reading all the reviews.
post #7 of 11
For what you describe, the Heads.

The Wateas are a different kind of ski (you should mount them flat, btw).

Honestly, I don't even know why they make the Watea 78s.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by faber View Post
For what you describe, the Heads.

The Wateas are a different kind of ski (you should mount them flat, btw).

Honestly, I don't even know why they make the Watea 78s.
That question has come up before.
post #9 of 11
For what it's worth, I have RX8's for the groomers (I use them everywhere once the snow is packed) and wanted something softer to fill the "everyday use mid-fat" spot in my quiver. I considered both the Head IM78 and the Watea 78 and went with the Watea 78's because I thougth the Heads would duplicate many of the characteristics of my RX8's.

Question for those that have skied both skis (I have not skied the IM78, but I have several friends I ski with who use it as their everyday ski and recommend it highly), do you all agree that the IM78 is a better choice in the bumps than the Watea? That was one area where I thought the Watea might have an edge (so to speak).
post #10 of 11
Your results may differ......

But I consider the Watea line to be excellent all-mountain soft-snow skis. Yes, they have that Fischer-y edge hold and wood core feel, and are very capable on groomers, but they really are better in untracked, crud, soft groomed, as well as off-piste.

I promoted my Watea 84s to my everyday ski, and even instruct on them. They have yet to disappoint me. But on days where it gets big, I use another ski.

If the Watea 78 is just a narrower Watea 84, then I really don't see the need. For the conditions that the Watea line addresses, you'd want more waist/float. They certainly wouldn't be my first choice for a ski day in which I had to content with artificial, ice, and bumps. (You can do bumps on any ski, but some are better for the job than others.)

For those conditions, yeah, the IM 78.... or if you're stuck on Fischers go narrower even, like Progressors, Red Heats, RC4 SCs....much better for those conditions.
post #11 of 11

im 78 vs watea 78

Hi,

The Head iM 78 is a better ski in almost all areas than the Watea 78, and with metal the iM 78 is WAY better in crud and difficult snow than the non-metal Watea....

If you are looking for a 177 iM 78, I have a 2008 for sale, new in plastic....and several new bindings, new in box....
PM me for details..
Thanks,
nfp
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