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Should I sell my RX8's and get a Supershape?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Skinny skis are becoming an endangered species. Everyone but racers are using midfats and fatties!

I want a pair of skinny skis on hard snow. They provide better carving and quicker edge changes. The RX8 is great, but the Supershape provides greater sidecut.

Should I sell my RX8's and get a Supershape? Is it that much of an improvement?

Michael
post #2 of 17
Should a bear poop in the woods?
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
Yes, a bear should...

Now returning to the the original post
post #4 of 17
sounds like a metron-esque question to me.

each has its own purpose

keep and buy rather than sell then buy
post #5 of 17
Where do you ski? Conditions?
How many days do you have on the RX8?
What do you like and dislike about the RX8?
Which Supershape are you considering?
Good luck with that last question as the Head Supershape series and its previous iterations have got to be the most confusing ski line that I've seen.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Where do you ski? Conditions?
I will ski all-over this year; from Austria to Utah to Lake Louse. I'll only use the Supershape on icy days.

How many days do you have on the RX8?
Less than 5

What do you like and dislike about the RX8?
I like that its light & quick, but its not damp enough for hypercarving.

Which Supershape are you considering?
the 175cm original with the 122-66-97mm sidecut

Michael
post #7 of 17
Get race skis for carving. It might take more than five days to learn "hypercarving" on any ski, but you need a slalom if that's what you want to do.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
Get race skis for carving.
I had a pair of 165cm Fischer WC SC. they were a little to short and twitchy for variable snow conditions. Great on smooth hardpack only, IMO.

Michael
post #9 of 17
OK, I would get the Heads then, they look nice. I've yet to demo a pair.
post #10 of 17
This could come down to a question of the skier's weight. I personally found that the RX8 would probably be better suited to a lighter, less aggressive skier, while the SS has enough beef to stand up to a heavier, more aggressive skiing style, while providing solid edge grip on ice and more versatility in variable snow conditions than a full blown race slalom. The SS might not have the same muscle as a dedicated race ski, but from my experience with them, I'm thinking that they would be more than enough for most people.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by WILDCAT View Post
Which Supershape are you considering?
the 175cm original with the 122-66-97mm sidecut

Michael
So how tall are you and what do you weigh? I may be wrong here but I think a 175 slalom cut is an oxy-moron. Really, no offense. I think that the current regulations for a slalom ski for men is 163 but I am pretty out of touch with that stuff. I am 5'8" 170" and I ski around 170cm in general, 177cm twin tip, 163 slalom, 156 factory race slalom. JMHO.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by Mac View Post
This could come down to a question of the skier's weight. I personally found that the RX8 would probably be better suited to a lighter, less aggressive skier, while the SS has enough beef to stand up to a heavier, more aggressive skiing style, while providing solid edge grip on ice and more versatility in variable snow conditions than a full blown race slalom. The SS might not have the same muscle as a dedicated race ski, but from my experience with them, I'm thinking that they would be more than enough for most people.
I'm a big guy, currently 225 lbs. I'm thinking along the same lines as this evaluation.

Thanks!

Michael
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by quickk9 View Post
So how tall are you and what do you weigh? I may be wrong here but I think a 175 slalom cut is an oxy-moron. Really, no offense. I think that the current regulations for a slalom ski for men is 163 but I am pretty out of touch with that stuff. I am 5'8" 170" and I ski around 170cm in general, 177cm twin tip, 163 slalom, 156 factory race slalom. JMHO.
Yeah, a 175cm SL ski is strange. It does have a 12 meter turn radius (TR) in this length. It still would provide the tightest TR of any ski I've used.

Michael
post #14 of 17
IMHO the RX8 is a nice ski, but the SS pretty much dusts it in every way. The SS is a great recreational carving ski that is reasonably forgiving (for those with true carving skills) but with incredible top end performance for those that will and can ski it aggressivley. If you bend the SS by staying way forward through the arc at speed, you will get energy and rebound that can snap you 3 feet into the air. If you want to ski it with less energy it is a nice damp ski. If you tune it at 3 and 1 it will hold on the hardest ice.

It is not for GS turns.

It is also not as quick as a race slalom ski in that with the more shaped tail it takes longer to exit the arc than a race slalom ski. Having said this it is much easier to control speed with ones arcs on the SS because it will lead you slightly back up hill, where a race slalom ski will not.

IMO the RX8 is a fun knock around shorter turn radius ski with ok energy and ok snap. The high end performanec of the ski comes nowhere close to that of the SS.

In answer to your question, yes get the SS!!
post #15 of 17
Mike:

WADR...you already have something that's pretty darned good at what you describe. I'm not sure that the change you are considering will change your life very much.

SJ
post #16 of 17
The SS is a softer flexing and damper feeling ski than the Fischer WC SC, maybe too soft given your weight. You probably found your SC too twitchy in the rough because you were spoiled by longer skis. I admit 190 Volants make better crud busters. By all means sell the RX8. Give up looking for a slalom-crud-busting ski. Get a slalom race ski and an older (therefore cheaper) longer, larger TR ski for crud.

OR...
Get the SS Speed or an SX12, and have fun really leaning it over at speed to get it to behave like a sl ski; that's what I would be doing this year if I had the funds.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Mike:

WADR...you already have something that's pretty darned good at what you describe. I'm not sure that the change you are considering will change your life very much.

SJ
Hi SJ,

Always good to get your advice.

MB
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