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Poll Results: Do you wear a helmet while you ski or snowboard?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 52% of voters (85)
    Yes always (soft ear cover)
  • 23% of voters (39)
    Yes always a full helmet (covers ears but not jaw)
  • 2% of voters (4)
    Yes always a full-face helmet (covers ears and has jaw protection)
  • 10% of voters (17)
    Sometimes
  • 11% of voters (18)
    No...we dont need no stinking helmets
163 Total Votes  
post #61 of 88
To continue that ^^^ sentiment, how many people replace their helmet after "It saved me from a concussion or head injury"???

Personally, I wear one most of the time to avoid tree limb-to-noggin impacts in Stowe's woods. I plan on wearing it a bit less this season, I feel naked without it... and I like that.

Anyone know the SNELL rating for a pom-pom?
post #62 of 88
To continue that ^^^ sentiment,how many bought one after an incident or injury ?

I wore one most of last year after a nasty fall which left me unable to remmeber a number after three steps or five seconds, whichever came first. Not good for a carpenter.

I'll wear mine ,like Whiteroom , in the woods and possibly on days the surface, heaven forbid, becomes more packed than usual.

Helmets have their time and place for many Otherwise they inhibit your vision, hearing and they get too hot. I tolerate mine but when it's really cold I like the comfort they provide.
post #63 of 88
To reiterate a point I made in last years thread, I started wearing mine to be a good example, but found (much to my surprise) that it is actually more comfortable and more convenient than wearing a hat.
post #64 of 88
I wear a helmet in JH 100+ days here in JH.

A helmet provides me with me wind protection, is far warmer than my hat and (ideally) protects me from my own poor judgment

The 'ole Smith Variant has treated me right on some angry daze.

I fiind the small brim lets enough light in so that I can see yet isn't long enough- like some of the Giro G10 models that if I get sloppy- like I can be- I"m not finding myself peering past the end of the visor on steeper terrian.

The Smith Prodigy fits well with this hard hat. I purchased Prodigy with a Sensor Mirror and it was an excellent fit, but purchased an sensor mirror lens for darker daze here in JH.

Just for warmth, don't leave home without it.

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post #65 of 88
I always wear my helmet. It's great for warmth and comfort IMO.
post #66 of 88
Thanks to billyymc for making this the best Helmet thread on the planet .

Answer: maybe I do and maybe I don't . Its my choice.

I wish my daughter would stop texting on her cell phone while driving.

Billyymc forgot, "it would be safer to wear your helmet in the car drive to the slopes versus wearing a helmet skiing or riding"

We need a new poll - how many of skiing and riding helmet users also text on cell phone while driving?
post #67 of 88

For anyone who actually wants to see discussion on the topic...

There was a pretty long and interesting thread on this last season:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=67090

I dug up some research papers (see post #26 in that thread), although they were mostly related to motorcycle and bicycle helmets.

My conclusion:

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The main conclusion seems to be that helmets help -- a lot -- in low-speed and glancing collisions, but you're screwed if you slam your head into a tree or lift tower at 30mph+ either way. They definitely lower the rate of brain injury if you do survive a bad collision. There might be an increase in neck injury rates, but not all studies have seen it. But I don't think that anyone is suggesting that wearing a helmet makes you more likely to die.

I couldn't find any scientific studies that addressed whether helmets make people ski more recklessly. Some studies around motorcycles showed that people who wore motorcycle helmets tended to have lower-speed collisions and be less likely to drink and drive. But that is probably just self-selection to a large extent; the people less concerned about safety don't wear helmets, and also engage in other risky behavior!
I wear a helmet (soft/removable ear covers) when I ski now. The scientific evidence convinced me that it is a good idea.

Also, I'm really tall and tend to get clipped by the bar if I'm not paying attention and someone yanks it down on the chairlift.
post #68 of 88
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
FYI, the Fuse is COLD for least coast application. I only use mine for spring skiing. Plus those BIG vent holes (that let in the cold in even when closed) have a nasty habit of filling with snow when you do a header, letting the cold melting snow drip, drip, drip onto your head, making it even colder.
Hotheads like me choose the Fuse. Even then, I'm steaming except when the temps are near zero or below. I always have the vents open on the lift, sometimes I still have to take the helmet off.

I added audio earpieces for my ipod. Love it I wish they had bluetooth when I was buying - the wires get difficult when you take your helmet off in the lodge, not wanting to leave the ipod on the table.
post #69 of 88
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
To continue that ^^^ sentiment,how many bought one after an incident or injury ?

I wore one most of last year after a nasty fall which left me unable to remmeber a number after three steps or five seconds, whichever came first. Not good for a carpenter.

I'll wear mine ,like Whiteroom , in the woods and possibly on days the surface, heaven forbid, becomes more packed than usual.

Helmets have their time and place for many Otherwise they inhibit your vision, hearing and they get too hot. I tolerate mine but when it's really cold I like the comfort they provide.
In my family, we all wore helmets before "the accident." My wife was rear-ended, so to speak, did a face plant on the hardpack and ended up with a bloodied face, concussion and escort to the hospital. Now she doesn't ski, she spends most of her time making sure she will never fall
post #70 of 88
Always wear a helmet. The new helmets are so comfortable and they dont look so dorky. For me its really a matter of why take a risk of a fall or crash that changes my life forever because I didnt wear a helmet.

Honestly Im not trying to convert any of you, if you dont wear a helmet, you dont wear a helmet
post #71 of 88
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Originally Posted by billskis View Post
Hotheads like me choose the Fuse. Even then, I'm steaming except when the temps are near zero or below. I always have the vents open on the lift, sometimes I still have to take the helmet off.

I added audio earpieces for my ipod. Love it I wish they had bluetooth when I was buying - the wires get difficult when you take your helmet off in the lodge, not wanting to leave the ipod on the table.
Those big vents fill with snow then when they get opened up they dump all that snow directly on your head. Of course, you could put a hood over it, but then it's warmer, so that defeats the purpose.

Try an Omen, vents are bigger, and there's two different groups of vents that are separately controllable, and the since the vents are almost surface level, they don't get all that snow accumulation, and dripping on your head when it melts.

The one advantage of the Fuse IMO is that you can take the ear pieces off and use it for a bike or rock climbing helmet in the summer.
post #72 of 88
Thread Starter 
I always wear a helmet liner with my helmet. I have to weights one for colder and one for warmer days. They keep any moisture from actually reaching my head...course I dont ski in the rain or waist deep powder so the actual water up there isnt much.
post #73 of 88
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
I always wear a helmet liner with my helmet. I have to weights one for colder and one for warmer days. They keep any moisture from actually reaching my head...course I dont ski in the rain or wasit deep powder so the actual water up there isnt much.
What, you guys never heard of a do-rag?

Hey, this might be an EpicSki merchandise idea.
post #74 of 88
I have nothing useful to add regarding helmets. I wear one: (a) because for me its more comfortable than a stocking cap, and (b) to set an example for my kids. Also, there doesn't appear to be any safety downside for me wearing a helmet, since I have many other limiting factors that effect my skiing speed.

But to hijack this thread for a moment, I have a question on goggles. The Clyde Soles article cited by g-force mentioned that goggles provide a safety function. What is it? I'm aware that too much UV-B increases the risk of cataracts, but is there some other safety function that goggles provide? Although I own a pair of goggles, I actually prefer to use shatterproof sports sunglasses. I find that goggles cut off some of my peripheral vision and other sensory feedback. Given my current skiing ability I need all the sensory feedback I can get.
post #75 of 88
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Originally Posted by Jimski View Post
... The Clyde Soles article cited by g-force mentioned that goggles provide a safety function. What is it? I'm aware that too much UV-B increases the risk of cataracts, but is there some other safety function that goggles provide? Although I own a pair of goggles, I actually prefer to use shatterproof sports sunglasses. I find that goggles cut off some of my peripheral vision and other sensory feedback. Given my current skiing ability I need all the sensory feedback I can get.
My eyes tend to water quite a bit in cold air, even at slow speeds, so I am much more comfortable with goggles. Also, unless sunglasses are completely sealed, they allow for light to seep in...I prefer complete eye protection. I would suggest trying on a few more brands to see if you can find one that works better for you. Oakley and Haber are my goggles of choice.
post #76 of 88
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
What, you guys never heard of a do-rag?

Hey, this might be an EpicSki merchandise idea.
I would purchase two EpicSki bandannas,...



and some stickers
post #77 of 88
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Originally Posted by Jimski View Post
I have nothing useful to add regarding helmets. I wear one: (a) because for me its more comfortable than a stocking cap, and (b) to set an example for my kids. Also, there doesn't appear to be any safety downside for me wearing a helmet, since I have many other limiting factors that effect my skiing speed.

But to hijack this thread for a moment, I have a question on goggles. The Clyde Soles article cited by g-force mentioned that goggles provide a safety function. What is it? I'm aware that too much UV-B increases the risk of cataracts, but is there some other safety function that goggles provide? Although I own a pair of goggles, I actually prefer to use shatterproof sports sunglasses. I find that goggles cut off some of my peripheral vision and other sensory feedback. Given my current skiing ability I need all the sensory feedback I can get.

scrape your face off the snow with sunglasses and then goggles and let me know which one feels better....

but most people dont fall on their face or thier head for the matter if you want to wear this stuff in case then go head. sunglasses IMO have one good function that is let you face cool down on warm day, other than goggles are superior in sun protection, eye protection, and crash protection.
post #78 of 88
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
Who said they wanted pictures. My new Giro G10 is the gray one.

Helmet quiver? Hmmm...



You have more interesting colors that me!
post #79 of 88
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Originally Posted by Jimski View Post
... goggles provide a safety function. What is it? ...
For me its fending off twigs in the trees. I can avoid the branches, but I get snagged by twigs I didn't see. In fact, I have a small tear on the shoulder of my jacket from one.

I suppose I might see it if it were coming straight at my eye, but I don't like those odds.
post #80 of 88
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Yeah thats the ticket I skied 5 days my whole life.....listen to yourself, where the hell do you get this stuff?????.....I mean c'mon man, I know life has been hard on you and all but just stop the insanity.

I tell you what genius.....I dare you to site one single example of the BS which you spew...stop your pathetic misguided attempts at attacking me, my skiing, or my character, just back up the nonsense with some fact...g'head I triple dog dare ya.
She's hot for you, Richie. By the way, did you ever get with Brooklyn Tracy? Seemed like some real chemistry there.
post #81 of 88
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
...they inhibit your vision...
You may be putting it on backwards.
post #82 of 88
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Originally Posted by catskills View Post
Thanks to billyymc for making this the best Helmet thread on the planet .

Answer: maybe I do and maybe I don't . Its my choice.

I wish my daughter would stop texting on her cell phone while driving.

Billyymc forgot, "it would be safer to wear your helmet in the car drive to the slopes versus wearing a helmet skiing or riding"

We need a new poll - how many of skiing and riding helmet users also text on cell phone while driving?
I've never texted on a cellphone while driving, but I write on my Blackberry while riding my bicycle almost every day. I wear my ski helmet when I'm driving in bad conditions.
post #83 of 88
These high visibility skiing deaths raised awareness of the dangers of skiing. If nobody heard about people dying from skiing into trees or other things we'd probably all still not be wearing helmets when skiing. Like many others in this thread, I decided to start wearing one to set a + example for my young kids.
Michael Kennedy
Sonny Bono
Doak Walker
Michel Trudeau
John McWethy

The only reason I can think of for not wearing one is that you might not hear someone coming up behind you so I guess you could be more likely to get clipped from behind, but I'd sure like to have a helmet on should I be blindsided.
post #84 of 88
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
scrape your face off the snow with sunglasses and then goggles and let me know which one feels better....

but most people dont fall on their face or thier head for the matter if you want to wear this stuff in case then go head. sunglasses IMO have one good function that is let you face cool down on warm day, other than goggles are superior in sun protection, eye protection, and crash protection.
It seems to me that many sunglass lens would provide greater protection from impact than the much softer lens in most goggles. That is just my impression, not based on empirical evidence or scientific studies.
post #85 of 88
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
This thread is stupid.
The dumb-ass threads are the only ones I feel qualified to post in. I want to respond to every post here, but have limited it to just five.
post #86 of 88
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
You may be putting it on backwards.
Label in front. Right ?
post #87 of 88
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
I usually wrap my head with det-chord.


I read this and couldn't help but thinking "Wow, that really redifines 'you fall you die' terrain." Tiki Torch carrying mandatory to fully achieve this look.
post #88 of 88
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
It seems to me that many sunglass lens would provide greater protection from impact than the much softer lens in most goggles. That is just my impression, not based on empirical evidence or scientific studies.
I would think that the goggles having better coverage and (generally) being less likely to slip/fall off would make up for that, though. Most goggle lenses are still pretty tough (maybe easy to scratch, but not easy to punch through.)

Anecdotally, my ex's father fell skiing some years back wearing sport sunglasses and basically punched himself in the eye socket with his pole grip. The glasses broke, and he was bruised and cut up pretty bad, but the glasses did protect his eyes.
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