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Any telemark patrollers?

post #1 of 20
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How many of you telemark while patrolling? I just picked up a set of K2 Piste Pipe with G3 binders and some Scarpa T1's. I'm going to give tele a shot this year off duty.

One thing I noticed is that it takes a bit more time to get into the tele bindings. With my alpine skis, I can step in and be gone in no time.

Is this just a "learning curve" thing that I'm going through or do you guys have some tips? Between wedging my toe in, flipping up the heel cable, and attaching the leash, I think it may take too long for patrol duty.

What do you guys think?
post #2 of 20
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Originally Posted by mnskibum View Post
How many of you telemark while patrolling? I just picked up a set of K2 Piste Pipe with G3 binders and some Scarpa T1's. I'm going to give tele a shot this year off duty.

One thing I noticed is that it takes a bit more time to get into the tele bindings. With my alpine skis, I can step in and be gone in no time.

Is this just a "learning curve" thing that I'm going through or do you guys have some tips? Between wedging my toe in, flipping up the heel cable, and attaching the leash, I think it may take too long for patrol duty.

What do you guys think?
I tele, and on some days as much as 1/4 of the patrol where I work is on tele.

I just kick my toe in, push my heel down, snap the heel throw up and clip it and go. Takes maybe 10 to 15 seconds. I guess it takes a little practice to get the toe kick down, but what's a few seconds? I make it up by making parallel turns (and not very many of those) if I'm on my way to a scene.

I got some NTN bindings last year and those are way fast to get into and out of.
post #3 of 20
I'm joining the patrol this year AND teaching myself to tele. That's all I have...sorry!
post #4 of 20
At my home mountain most of our top snow safety patrollers are on Tele gear all the time, & they rip!
JF
post #5 of 20
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I'm sure tele skiing while patrolling is no big deal, it's the prep work to get the skis on and off that has me a bit nervous. Like I said, I can step into my alpine skis in less than 3 seconds.

This may not even be a big deal overall. I just got my tele gear the other day and the thought crossed my mind that it might take me a little longer and be a little more cumbersome to get them on and off.

I guess I'll see how it goes. Just wanted to see how others felt about it.
post #6 of 20
We have a bunch of the pros at our hill that patrol on tele. Be careful with your skis as you take them off when you arrive on scene with the sled. They like to slide away - which is very entertaining for the rest of us.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by Sinecure View Post
They like to slide away - which is very entertaining for the rest of us.
I would say that would be a little more on the "scary" side than "entertaining"........

But, that's why I'm here asking the questions. I guess I didn't even consider the possibility of a runaway ski. Thanks for the heads up!
post #8 of 20
I am tele-only and will be a first year patroller/candidate this season. Last two years I was a ranger at our hill, working with patrollers. As Bob said above, after a while, you can get in pretty quickly, but when you get out at a scene, turn them upside down so they don't run away.

That said, this year, my main skis will have Telebulldogs. They are step-in with a brake. Once the season gets underway, I will report back in with how they are working out.
post #9 of 20
One of my friends who patrols on Teles loves using his Bomber Bishop bindings because of the control he has in them. He can ski them alpine-like and have great edge control if necessary. But I did spend 1/2 hour helping him look for one of them last season down in the ravine.

Agreed that a runaway ski is usually more scary than entertaining. What I meant is that its entertaining to watch one of the pros screw up and let his ski get away. They know to turn them upside down, but sometimes its hard to do that while holding on to a sled that hasn't been secured yet.
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by Sinecure View Post
Agreed that a runaway ski is usually more scary than entertaining. What I meant is that its entertaining to watch one of the pros screw up and let his ski get away. They know to turn them upside down, but sometimes its hard to do that while holding on to a sled that hasn't been secured yet.
I knew what you meant. Just poking fun.


I'll see how the tele gear works while patrolling this year. I think that with some practice and paying attention, I'll get used to it.

I'm going to start out with simple cable binders for now. I really don't know much about other binding choices. I know there are 3-pin, cable, AT, releasables, etc. I just don't understand it all right now. I subscribe to the "KISS" system usually....
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by mnskibum View Post
I'm going to start out with simple cable binders for now. I really don't know much about other binding choices. I know there are 3-pin, cable, AT, releasables, etc. I just don't understand it all right now. I subscribe to the "KISS" system usually....
FWIW, here's the gear I've picked up in the last year, and after I teach myself how to do this, I'll have more feedback, but anyway, a nice cross-section of stuff:

178 Dynastar Legend 3800 w/ Voile 3-pin Hardwire CRB's
183 Black Diamond Havoc w/ Hammerheads
182 G3 Tickets w/ Hammerheads
177 G3 Barons w/ BD02's

Scarpa T1 boots

All bindings are somewhat active, and the Voile's are releasable, so I'll probably start on those until I 'get things figured out". The more I think about getting on this stuff, the more excited I am about taking on something new.

First patrol meeting is TONIGHT!!
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
FWIW, here's the gear I've picked up in the last year:

178 Dynastar Legend 3800 w/ Voile 3-pin Hardwire CRB's
183 Black Diamond Havoc w/ Hammerheads
182 G3 Tickets w/ Hammerheads
177 G3 Barons w/ BD02's
So... you picked up several different skis/bindings to try out tele skiing?

You are very thorough, I'll give you that! I'll wait for your feedback....
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by mnskibum View Post
So... you picked up several different skis/bindings to try out tele skiing?

You are very thorough, I'll give you that! I'll wait for your feedback....
Nah - I'm pretty much committed. I WANT to learn to tele, so I'm just getting ahead of the gear whore-dom curve. I'm cementing my interest!

I doubt I'll patrol in them until I've had a couple seasons in them, but as it turns out, a couple of the people I'll be patrolling with this year are also interested in doing it too, so the more the merrier!!
post #14 of 20
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Nah - I'm pretty much committed. I WANT to learn to tele, so I'm just getting ahead of the gear whore-dom curve. I'm cementing my interest!
Haha. "Pretty much committed."!! I bought telemark gear before trying telemark skiing, but only one pair of skis. Twenty years later and I don't have one pair as nice as any of your four. That's only because I haven't yet decided if I like it.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
Haha. "Pretty much committed."!! I bought telemark gear before trying telemark skiing, but only one pair of skis. Twenty years later and I don't have one pair as nice as any of your four. That's only because I haven't yet decided if I like it.
Good thing there nothing about you (ahem..username...ahem) to tip us off as to your "leanings"...

Come on, man...poo or move!!

(The best part - I don't have more than $350 into ANY OF THEM! Most were $250 or LESS!!)
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post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post
That was AWESOME!
post #18 of 20
I was 100% tele when I started patrolling. Now I only do it once and a while. I am a strong tele skier and am an effective patroller on tele. I found that I preffered the step in aspect of the binding and the fact that the alpine binding has a brake. The snow here can be rock hard and I got tired of messing around with my gear everytime I got to a scene or had some type of hill work to do. It's a personal prefference.
post #19 of 20
Though I am a better tele skier than alpine skier, patrolling on alpine is definitely easier. But, you can't make tele turns, and they are fun. Much more fun.

In adition to flipping skis over, clip the leashes together.


HH
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
I found that I preffered the step in aspect of the binding and the fact that the alpine binding has a brake. The snow here can be rock hard and I got tired of messing around with my gear everytime I got to a scene or had some type of hill work to do.
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patrolling on alpine is definitely easier.HH
That's the kind of experience and advice I was looking for here. Maybe I'll stick with alpine while patrolling and tele when I'm free skiing. I just have a feeling that I'm going to really like tele. I just wish it was easier to get in and out for patrolling...

Thanks guys.
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