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post #31 of 34
I'm reviving this somewhat dead thread because I was searching for the best close to NJ place to bring my 4 y/o this weekend as his usual all day class at Belleayre was booked solid.  As I'll be skiing with him the whole time, think I'm going to Shawnee.

Anyway, don't discount Elk in favor of Hunter.  I live pretty much equal distance - meaning 2+ hrs - between Elk, Belleayre and Hunter, etc.  I've been skiing for decades, love bumps, trees, etc., and would generally rather go to Elk than Hunter.  Sure, Hunter has the steepest terrain and most vert.  That terrain also gets skied off in no time.  They tend to groom like mad and the infamous West side bumps often have 30 feet of very shiny "snow" between them.  Hunter can be great but you need to catch it right.  Elk, while having less vert and steepness, does a tremendous grooming job.  While they're bump trails are somewhat intermediate, they're close enough together that your actually bump skiings.

Actually prefer Belleayre for the last couple of years as it combines the best of both - not as much vert but more than Elk and plenty of bump trails.
post #32 of 34
Neither....apparently Liberty is the place to ski....Michele Obama and her girls were there this weekend, unannounced and in disguise thanks to ski gear covering them up.  Friend informed me.
post #33 of 34
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Sounds like the "granulated sugar" that Blue calls snow, it is like quicksand. No one turns snow to ice like Blue.
exactly, they blow "snow" so it holds better so it's a much heavier, icey granular. They also blow and spred instead of whaling it and letting it dry out and then groom, the result is a lot of death cookies and clumping.

 

OMFreakingG!  That's it!!!   I just got back from Blue this evening - skied in 4-6 in. of...... no kidding ......, Glass Bead Blasting Media!  Never seen anything like it - the damnedest stuff!!  I had to check the Epic-search and see if anyone else ever experienced it - and found this thread and posts from Phil and Finn. 

 

I ski there a couple times each year and have always enjoyed the conditions - nice fast hard icy pack, except for late spring skiing when I would see (and expect) the softer clumpy stuff on the run-outs.  This time though, it was Top-to-Bottom GBBM requiring constant, laser beam focus attention to edge pressures, COM, and "driving" the skis.  I've dealt with common crud before, and tracked out afternoons in VT after a powder morning, but this crap was unbelievable. This stuff did NOT tolerate form breaks.  In the end I felt the day's experience made me a better skier, form and focus wise, only falling once on one of the more narrow winding green runs while trying to negotiate traffic, in that quicksand, at slow speed - you hit the nail on the head Phil. 

 

I do usually cherry-pick the days to go, avoiding temps above freezing and any rain within a few days prior, ... with the high of 38 there today, and some rain earlier in the week, I was expecting possibly the spring conditions on the run-outs.  Like I said though, it was EVERYWHERE this time, and deep, like they just blew it,  

 

At least the next time I get to rip on the hard stuff it will be that much more enjoyable.........

post #34 of 34
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OMFreakingG!  That's it!!!   I just got back from Blue this evening - skied in 4-6 in. of...... no kidding ......, Glass Bead Blasting Media!  Never seen anything like it - the damnedest stuff!!  I had to check the Epic-search and see if anyone else ever experienced it - and found this thread and posts from Phil and Finn. 

 

I ski there a couple times each year and have always enjoyed the conditions - nice fast hard icy pack, except for late spring skiing when I would see (and expect) the softer clumpy stuff on the run-outs.  This time though, it was Top-to-Bottom GBBM requiring constant, laser beam focus attention to edge pressures, COM, and "driving" the skis.  I've dealt with common crud before, and tracked out afternoons in VT after a powder morning, but this crap was unbelievable. This stuff did NOT tolerate form breaks.  In the end I felt the day's experience made me a better skier, form and focus wise, only falling once on one of the more narrow winding green runs while trying to negotiate traffic, in that quicksand, at slow speed - you hit the nail on the head Phil. 

 

I do usually cherry-pick the days to go, avoiding temps above freezing and any rain within a few days prior, ... with the high of 38 there today, and some rain earlier in the week, I was expecting possibly the spring conditions on the run-outs.  Like I said though, it was EVERYWHERE this time, and deep, like they just blew it,  

 

At least the next time I get to rip on the hard stuff it will be that much more enjoyable.........

With fat enough skis it is almost like skiing powder, that you can't sink in, sorta.eek.gif

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