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post #61 of 83
Rockdude, are your Sterlings your rock skis?
post #62 of 83
My Nordica Olympia Conquer all mountains... without a shadow of a doubt.
post #63 of 83
Rhetorical question... Do you take your Ferrari four-wheeling?

You bet I stay out of the rock gardens with the Sterlings. I am careful where I go and hope to get a few extra years out of them.

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Rockdude, are your Sterlings your rock skis?
post #64 of 83
One ski only? No question, 192 777s. Period.
post #65 of 83
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I have the old model red AC4 in 184cm and would agree it is a do all ski providing you are not into bumps. I would agree with the others that chose the Mythic Raider as it felt similar to the AC4 but wider so not quite as on piste friendly.
I do a ton of bump skiing and like the AC40's in the bumps but to each his own...
post #66 of 83
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I do a ton of bump skiing and like the AC40's in the bumps but to each his own...
Would depend on how long your AC40s were as to how bump friendly they were but the 184cm is more bump friendly than my
Volkl P10s though.
post #67 of 83
Head Monster 88 186. For West.

Volkl Racetiger GS 185. For East.
post #68 of 83
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Just curious, how many folks considered how their choice would fare on a NASTAR course or icy rutted terrain when choosing? It looks like the East folks are sacrificing powder skiing ease for hold on ice and the West folks are doing just the opposite. I took an approach where I chose what ski I would take expecting the worst conditions when I got there. Most folks are picking a ski that is best for ideal conditions.
Why should I consider a situation I would never end up in?
post #69 of 83
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Why should I consider a situation I would never end up in?
I understand. There are many that would rather not ski than ski in terrible conditions, NASTAR course conditions are usually comparable to those types of conditions. I'd rather make sure my ONE pair of skis would do well in the worst conditions than have my one pair be POW skis and just not ski other conditions.

Peters said it best when he said I'd rather ski POW on racing skis than ski hardpack on POW skis.
post #70 of 83
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Scott P4 for Utah.

Jeah
post #71 of 83
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Peters said it best when he said I'd rather ski POW on racing skis than ski hardpack on POW skis.
I'd agree with that statement too (especially if we're talking about a reverse/reverse pow ski). However, I'd rather ski my watea 94's or something comparable in powder *and* hardpack than either of the above scenarios, where you have the wrong ski for the job. Maybe the watea isn't the right ski for either job, as kind of an all-mountain ski, at least here in the west. But IMO it's a better ski for both jobs than a specialized ski. And that's the whole point of only having one ski.

I said it before, and Ghost said it, it's all about what ski is the most fun. I don't want to have 1 ski that handles hardpack like a champ but doesn't do as well in the other conditions that I see more often.
post #72 of 83
Using the "all mountain argument I guess my Scream 10 pilots would be the best all around choice limiting it to my quiver options. Problem is.... If I have only one ski it HAS to be a ski that holds well at very high speeds because that's where I get the most stoke. Scream 10's just don't meet that requirement., most fats and mid fats won't meet that requirement either.

So we all have our unique choice just as we all have our favorite type of skiing.
post #73 of 83
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
I understand. There are many that would rather not ski than ski in terrible conditions, NASTAR course conditions are usually comparable to those types of conditions. I'd rather make sure my ONE pair of skis would do well in the worst conditions than have my one pair be POW skis and just not ski other conditions.

Peters said it best when he said I'd rather ski POW on racing skis than ski hardpack on POW skis.
I would argue (have argued) that a race-room big mountain ski is great for handling anything. You wouldn't set a record on a GS course on an LP, but you can hold an edge on ice and still do well in soft snow.
post #74 of 83
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So we all have our unique choice just as we all have our favorite type of skiing.
Totally agree.
post #75 of 83
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Originally Posted by WestEast View Post
I would argue (have argued) that a race-room big mountain ski is great for handling anything. You wouldn't set a record on a GS course on an LP, but you can hold an edge on ice and still do well in soft snow.
FTW!!!1!!1
post #76 of 83
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Scott P4 for Utah.
I'm on the east coast, so my x-wing furies get the most use . . . but in the burning house scenario, I'd save my P4's and find something else for an everyday EC ski. These are one fun ski.
post #77 of 83
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I would argue (have argued) that a race-room big mountain ski is great for handling anything. You wouldn't set a record on a GS course on an LP, but you can hold an edge on ice and still do well in soft snow.
Fat tails aren't so hot in the bumps though. For me, utility #2 after stability at speed is something that would also handle well in the bumps. POW is probably at the bottom of my needs list. But FWIW I've skied nothing but SLs and GS skis in the deepest stuff I've ever skied (CO and NM). I now own a pair of 90+ waist skis and see the utility of that, but it is a very low priority for me.
post #78 of 83
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Fat tails aren't so hot in the bumps though. For me, utility #2 after stability at speed is something that would also handle well in the bumps.
one of the reasons i love the lp xxl so much is because of just how GOOD it is in the bumps. i can zipperline anything in utah on them, and if i end up somewhere where the bumps get too tight (like a FEW runs at mammoth), well, then it's just time to start doubling-up
post #79 of 83
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one of the reasons i love the lp xxl so much is because of just how GOOD it is in the bumps. i can zipperline anything in utah on them, and if i end up somewhere where the bumps get too tight (like a FEW runs at mammoth), well, then it's just time to start doubling-up
cool, sounds like something I'd be interested in. Line skis caught my eye when I first started looking at skis again last year, but I never came across any that fit my dumpster diving budget. I've got the CaBrawlers and old F17s to play in the bumps for now.
post #80 of 83
Nope. Don't think this is the all around ski for me:
Expert big-mountain skiers and freeriders ski mythical lines and bottomless deeps in the titinal reinforced Dynastar Legend Pro XXL Alpine Ski. This Dynastar ski redefines the word burly. The Legend Pro XXL Alpine Ski's wood core and titinal reinforcement give it the power to charge huge lines at high speeds. This super fat ski blows through crud and floats out any drop on its huge 109 millimeter underfoot and powder hungry 132 millimeter shovel. Feel this 194-centimeter-long ski's unparalleled stability at mach speeds and haul ass over any snow conditions without the fear of losing control. Find the gnarliest line beneath your ski tips and point the Dynastar Legend Pro XXL Alpine Ski's for the meanest ride of your life.

If you can truly rip bumps on these you must really be fat mac daddy WC
post #81 of 83
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Nope. Don't think this is the all around ski for me:
Expert big-mountain skiers and freeriders ski mythical lines and bottomless deeps in the titinal reinforced Dynastar Legend Pro XXL Alpine Ski. This Dynastar ski redefines the word burly. The Legend Pro XXL Alpine Ski's wood core and titinal reinforcement give it the power to charge huge lines at high speeds. This super fat ski blows through crud and floats out any drop on its huge 109 millimeter underfoot and powder hungry 132 millimeter shovel. Feel this 194-centimeter-long ski's unparalleled stability at mach speeds and haul ass over any snow conditions without the fear of losing control. Find the gnarliest line beneath your ski tips and point the Dynastar Legend Pro XXL Alpine Ski's for the meanest ride of your life.

If you can truly rip bumps on these you must really be fat mac daddy WC
i WISH. but seriously, never put much stock in magazine reviews. any time spent on tgr will quickly echo what i have been saying on epicski for so long now: the xxl is the most manageable beast of a ski that there is. it defies logic, and it makes NO sense on paper, but it just IS. don't get me wrong, it truly IS a big mountain freeride ski (a genre that tends to be very bastardized... people will call any fat ski a big mountain freeride ski, like a gotama, for example...), but of all the skis in the segment (along with the movement goliath, from what i hear), the xxl's are the most maneuverable by FAR. they give up a little bit in true chargitude to skis like the im103 and b-squad, but they gain SOOO much more in versatility and maneuverability. if you weigh more than 175lbs and consider yourself an expert skier (an everyday expert, not necessarily a superhero), there is absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to ski these decently well, at the very LEAST.

EDIT: and the large radius sidecut and soft-ish tip make bumps surprisingly easy. granted, they are not BUMP skis by any means. they just make bumps surprisingly bearable (and even FUN!) for a such a fat and burly ski. i had an easier time in the bumps on 194 xxl's than i did on 191 mantras... but, of course, i had a MUUUCH easier time on 179 k2 pe's than on EITHER of those
post #82 of 83
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Try it this way...the house is on fire....you only can grab one pair on the way out.....which ones????
Volant Genesis Platinums.... But I would still cry to think of my Silvers and my wife's Salomon Siam7s going up in smoke.
post #83 of 83
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Just curious, how many folks considered how their choice would fare on a NASTAR course or icy rutted terrain when choosing? It looks like the East folks are sacrificing powder skiing ease for hold on ice and the West folks are doing just the opposite. I took an approach where I chose what ski I would take expecting the worst conditions when I got there. Most folks are picking a ski that is best for ideal conditions.
Funny, I saw it the other way around. Most of the Easterners seem bt be picking skis for the conditions they always find, and that is icy skied-out groomers. As I have never skied out west, (yes you can cry for me, and as of now, I am accepting donations...) I can't really comment on the ski choices. But around here (Montreal, Quebec, Canada) a good gripping GS style short turning ski is just what we need almost all of the time.
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