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Here is the question. I have been looking at ski reviews and am trying to understand the terminology a little better.

Can you define Quickness, Forgiveness, and Maneuverability for me?

They would seem relatively self-explanatory terms but in several reviews of mid-fat skis I have noticed that a ski that rates highly on short turns, may be considered less "forgiving" than a ski that prefers longer turns.

As an example, I was looking at the reviews on skinet.com and comparing (for example) the Volkl Bridge with the Line Prophet 90 I see the following scores (higher is better):

Bridge P90
Long turns 3.35 2.96
Medium turns 3.29 2.39
Short turns 3.23 1.82
Stability 3.73 2.93
Quickness 3.15 3.28
Forgiveness 2.9 3.78
Maneuverability 3.07 3.28


How can a ski rank lower on medium and short radius turns and be deemed so much more forgiving and maneuverable? Why would it be less stable?

I don't want to get too hung up on the number, I am just trying to make some sense of these reviews.

Any help is appreciated as always!
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Originally Posted by LucaM View Post
Here is the question. I have been looking at ski reviews and am trying to understand the terminology a little better.

Can you define Quickness, Forgiveness, and Maneuverability for me?

They would seem relatively self-explanatory terms but in several reviews of mid-fat skis I have noticed that a ski that rates highly on short turns, may be considered less "forgiving" than a ski that prefers longer turns.

As an example, I was looking at the reviews on skinet.com and comparing (for example) the Volkl Bridge with the Line Prophet 90 I see the following scores (higher is better):

Bridge P90
Long turns 3.35 2.96
Medium turns 3.29 2.39
Short turns 3.23 1.82
Stability 3.73 2.93
Quickness 3.15 3.28
Forgiveness 2.9 3.78
Maneuverability 3.07 3.28


How can a ski rank lower on medium and short radius turns and be deemed so much more forgiving and maneuverable? Why would it be less stable?

I don't want to get too hung up on the number, I am just trying to make some sense of these reviews.

Any help is appreciated as always!
I do not have a full understanding of the specs either but
quick turning skis have a deep side cut, that is the ski centre is
very much narrower than the tip and tail. Normally a quick turning ski (Slalom) will not be as stable in long turns (GS).
Stiffer skis are more stable but do not handle as well
in bumps or soft snow. When selecting a ski take into
consideration where you will be skiing mostly. If you will be skiing on a small crowded mountain quick turning skis will be most suitable or if the mountain has lots of wide open steep
slopes with no one around a long turning (GS) type ski would
be better. Width is important too as a wide ski has more stability in soft snow and crud. To get a better understanding
demo different types. As for forgivness soft skis are more forgiving but stiff skis are like having an instructor with you all
the time as they will throw you if you are not centred and skiing
them right. Generally speaking a lot of skis rated as expert can
be skied by intermediate level if you have the attitude to become better than intermediate.
post #3 of 3
IMO quickness refers to edge changing. "How quick is a ski from edge to edge".
Forgiveness stands for the the ability of a ski to accommodate both carving and slipping turns, aswell as the amount of punishment you get when making mistakes or getting in the backseat.
Maneuverability stands for how easy it is to pivot them, sort off.

just my 2c
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