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Atomic Beta Carve 8.18 or Volkl V1 20-20

post #1 of 14
10/20/08 at 11:48am
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I have been browsing on here for awhile and finally had a question I can not find much information about. I have a choice of buying a set of Atomic BetaCarve 8-18 or Volkl V1 20-20. I am tired of renting skis. The Atomic's are $20 more expensive then the Volkl's...I need help. Please advise on which way to go. I am 5-8 165 lbs...and will be buying either 160cm in the Volkl's or 163 in the Atomic's.

I might add that I am an intermediate skiier good with all blues and the occasional black...Yes I know that the skiis I am looking at are 4-6 years old, but hey they are cheap. Thanks in advance for your advice.
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post #2 of 14
10/20/08 at 12:09pm
Where do you ski and what are your goals?

The 8'18 was a really nice, friendly intermediate carver ski with very good ice behavior. It did have a top speed limit, and it didn't have much float to speak of.

The V1 20/20 was a beginner womens' ski, less carving-oriented and less grippy on ice. Marginally more versatile but, in that size, too short for you IMO, which would cut back its versatility.

My pick given those two choices, in identical condition: Atomic or wait for something else to show up.
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post #3 of 14
10/20/08 at 12:13pm
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Thanks a lot....I am 5-8 165 and I ski Angel Fire, Taos, Breckenridge CO, and occasionally Copper.
Mainly groomed, but I do enjoy Glad Skiing occassionally.
Do you have anymore suggestions. I am actually looking at some previously demoed or rental skis...So I am running across a lot of Rossie Cut Stage 2 and Volkl 724 AX2...Would either of these be better than the Atomics?
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post #4 of 14
10/20/08 at 12:20pm
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Thanks a lot....I am 5-8 165 and I ski Angel Fire, Taos, Breckenridge CO, and occasionally Copper.
Ah, thanks. I did notice your size above, eventually.

Will you be taking lessons?

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So I am running across a lot of Rossie Cut Stage 2
You can do (much) better.

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and Volkl 724 AX2...
Possibly that one, if the size is right and you are fairly athletic.

I'm surprised that you don't see a ton of Dynastar 4800s or similar for $cheap$.
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post #5 of 14
10/20/08 at 12:29pm
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Oh I have....I am very athletic...Road Bicycle Crit Racer. Skiing is something I am actually decent at for only going twice a year. So stay away from Rossie
Here are my options

Salomon Verse 500
Dynamic VR02
Salomon XScream 700
K2 Four R
Fischer XTR Scenios
Salomon Verse 8
Atomic Beta Carve 8-18
Volkl 724 Ax2's
Salomon CrossMax 700
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post #6 of 14
10/20/08 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by tands05 View Post
Oh I have....I am very athletic...Road Bicycle Crit Racer. Skiing is something I am actually decent at for only going twice a year.


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So stay away from Rossie
Not in general, just those.

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Here are my options

Salomon Verse 500
Dynamic VR02
Salomon XScream 700
K2 Four R
Fischer XTR Scenios
Salomon Verse 8
Atomic Beta Carve 8-18
Volkl 724 Ax2's
Salomon CrossMax 700
Ouch. You've mostly picked out the semi-good stuff.

How do we get you more options?
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post #7 of 14
10/20/08 at 12:46pm
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Good question. Limited budget, like I said I ski twice a year maybe three times. I just want to save some money on rental crap that is usually just the stuff mentioned above. It seems that the Atomics were a fairly pricey ski when new...No that this means anything.
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post #8 of 14
10/20/08 at 12:56pm
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I found a set of Volkl Vertigo G20-20 in 168cm...Are these any better? Are they too long for me do you think...
Also Volkl Vertigo G2
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post #9 of 14
10/20/08 at 1:06pm
Not bad. Less friendly than a modern all-mountain ski and a hassle in lessons because of the long turn radius but very decent for 2002.

170cmish would be about right for how the sizing ran then.
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post #10 of 14
10/20/08 at 1:09pm
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So you would go with the Volkl G20-20 or the G2 in 168 over the Atomics in 160? I know this seems like I am an idiot and should figure this out on my own ...but I am an idiot.
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post #11 of 14
10/20/08 at 1:46pm
Can't quite answer that because we still have questions such as:

- do you have boots (will getting them go over budget?)
- what bindings are on the skis (I expect some variant of Centro on the 8'18s and some Markers or other on the Volkls)
- will they need to be reset/remounted for your boots and will this go over budget?
- are some in better shape than others?

But, yeah, in a world where everything else was the same and you didn't expect to take lessons, I'd go with the Volkls and slightly longer.
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post #12 of 14
10/20/08 at 1:56pm
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I wont be taking lessons, and I have a set of Nordica F5.2 boots.

Here are links to the ski's
http://galacticsnowsports.com/volkl-...0-20-skis.html

http://galacticsnowsports.com/atomic...-red-skis.html
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post #13 of 14
10/20/08 at 2:10pm
Given all that, I'd say get the Volkls and get new boots when the budget gets better. My second choice would be the Sceneos or Dynastar Intuitive.
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post #14 of 14
10/20/08 at 2:13pm
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Thanks man...I will see how this year goes with these.
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