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New K2 Extreme.....

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Thread Starter 
Anyone have any demo time on them?

Specs kind of caught my eye and the store just got them in so they're basically about as dumb founded as me about them (118/85/109 Twin tip style with a 14mm taper). They said there itching to try them when the snow starts to fly as they too seem intrigue by the specs and the rep was pumping them up like no tomorrow. K2's always seem to be so hit or miss though(mostly miss it seems like over the last few years). I also believe this is what is replacing the PE's.

Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on them. Haven't even really seen a review out there on them either (haven't looked to hard either).
post #2 of 28
They're not just replacing the PE's, they ARE the PE's, with a different graphic. Go check the PE reviews and you'll know the Extremes.
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They're not just replacing the PE's, they ARE the PE's, with a different graphic. Go check the PE reviews and you'll know the Extremes.
and the fact that none of the general population will notice makes this face-lift BRILLIANT. the market for pe's was saturated years ago... and to confound that, people started to realize that the pe was a good all-mountain ski but not such a good park ski. yet the graphics and the name were still aimed at the young, park croud, rather than the retro-loving, middle-aged skiers who wanted to ski the pe, but hated the graphics. i predict that this name and graphic change will go over very well for k2...
post #4 of 28
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Thanks, that was kind what I was thinking when I was doing some looking this afternoon.

So how does the PE's perform on the typical midwest and eastern groomers that you may run into some icey patches time from time(does it like to chatter at higher speeds)? Does the ski like short turns (trees and mogul)? Does it like to be pushed/aggressive skier or is more of a ski that you take what the ski gives you?

Thanks to all who apply. Been going over skis for the last few months trying to figure what to replace my Volant Machette Sin's with. Just hate to pick up a new ski and after a few times out find out I like my old set up better.
post #5 of 28
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Thanks, that was kind what I was thinking when I was doing some looking this afternoon.

So how does the PE's perform on the typical midwest and eastern groomers that you may run into some icey patches time from time(does it like to chatter at higher speeds)? Does the ski like short turns (trees and mogul)? Does it like to be pushed/aggressive skier or is more of a ski that you take what the ski gives you?

Thanks to all who apply. Been going over skis for the last few months trying to figure what to replace my Volant Machette Sin's with. Just hate to pick up a new ski and after a few times out find out I like my old set up better.
i have skied 179 pe's in some form (had the 80mm waisted version and now have the 85mm waisted versions) for the last 4 years out west. they are fine on western groomers, and were, in fact, the skinniest skis that i used last year. if you keep the edges tuned on them, they will carve just fine for a somewhat more freestyle/freeride oriented ski. but i hardly think that you'll confuse them for a carving ski out on the ice-coast. they are insanely good in the bumps. but that may be the fact that i ski in utah (where the bumps are spaced incredibly far apart) and at mammoth (where the moguls are a lot tighter, but with only a few REALLY tight mogul runs). also, i was bangin moguls on 96-120mm waisted skis, a lot with two layers of metal, the rest of the time when i wasn't on my pe's, so the pe may have just really stood out by comparison. in any case, they are certainly pretty good mogul skis. as far as the beef behind the ski, it's decent for it's category. once again, this is by far the most playful ski that i was on all year (due to being on very burly freeride skis most of the time), but it is NO noodle. it will NOT ski you, but you won't be remiss while skiing it unless it gets PRETTY choppy.
post #6 of 28

PEs are Great Eastern Skis as well

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Originally Posted by skylolow View Post
Thanks, that was kind what I was thinking when I was doing some looking this afternoon.

So how does the PE's perform on the typical midwest and eastern groomers that you may run into some icey patches time from time(does it like to chatter at higher speeds)? Does the ski like short turns (trees and mogul)? Does it like to be pushed/aggressive skier or is more of a ski that you take what the ski gives you?

Thanks to all who apply. Been going over skis for the last few months trying to figure what to replace my Volant Machette Sin's with. Just hate to pick up a new ski and after a few times out find out I like my old set up better.
The PE is a very good eastern all conditions ski that handles groomers and ice well. I weigh 160 and ski the 164 cm PEs mounted 3 cm back from the "core center" mounting point.

I bought my PEs to try to learn some park tricks for days when groomers were the only option available. PEs are not best choice for learning to spin in the park--they're on the heavy side (there I go blaming the skis). However, the PEs do an excellent job carving up new england groomers and ice. They have good edge grip--I don't detune the edges.

I ski aggressively and the PEs do not chatter at speed. They are relatively heavy (compared to the rest of my quiver) and are good at bashing through crud. Get 'em on edge and they'll go through just about anything.

The PEs don't make short turns like my RX8's, but they are maneuverable, perform well in the bumps and are equally capable in the trees. However, PEs are not my absolute favorites for bumps (I personally prefer a narrower ski), but they are very capable.

I have never skied Volant Machette Sin's, so I can't compare the two skis.

Hope that helps.

Ski the East
post #7 of 28
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I have never skied Volant Machette Sin's, so I can't compare the two skis.

Hope that helps.

Ski the East
Thanks for all the info..

Machette's are heavy with a metal cap. But they cut/shred through anything. Float is ok for 6" to 12" fresh but anymore then that it takes alot of skill. I really don't hang out much in the park at all (10% maybe). I like to get out and explore.
post #8 of 28
These are a bit different than the PE's in that they do not have the P=tex top and are a tad lighter and more lively.
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Good day all, great site! I tried the Extremes last March, and fell in love instantly. Living in Montreal, Canada I ski mostly eastern powder (ICE). The ski did well on icy bumps, as well as, in the trees. Unfortunately I can't afford them but was able to get my hands on last years PE's, which I'm told are the same ski and therefore, should handle the same. It brought back great memories seeing the graphics on the new Extremes as the original Extremes were my first pair of K2 skis back in the 80's, when I started skiing. I have owned numerous pairs of K2s and yes some have been dogs but all in all I am a loyal K2 fan. The last two years I have been on K2 Recons, another great ski but the base is too soft for the East.
post #10 of 28
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if you keep the edges tuned on them, they will carve just fine for a somewhat more freestyle/freeride oriented ski. but i hardly think that you'll confuse them for a carving ski out on the ice-coast. they are insanely good in the bumps.
Says it all. Unless you plan to do a fair amount of trees and bumps, really search out soft snow when it's around, unclear these are first choice for midwest/eastern groomed. Some other unidirectional candidates with versatility, good grip that you might find cheap right now online from last year: Atomic Crimson Nomad or Blackeye, Nordica Afterburner or Jet Fuel, Blizzard Cronus, Head iM82 or 78.
post #11 of 28
If the Extreme's are the PE's which I believe they are, they are one of the of most under rated skis out there & best bang for the buck. I'm glad to hear they did away with the ptex topsheet (which didnt hold up very well to daily wear & tear).

A great all mtn ski
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I'm thinking about buying an '08 pair of Extremes for $499. Is that a reasonable price? Also, what does "forgiveness" mean? K2 lists these as an unforgiving ski on their site. Thanks...
post #13 of 28
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Says it all. Unless you plan to do a fair amount of trees and bumps, really search out soft snow when it's around, unclear these are first choice for midwest/eastern groomed. Some other unidirectional candidates with versatility, good grip that you might find cheap right now online from last year: Atomic Crimson Nomad or Blackeye, Nordica Afterburner or Jet Fuel, Blizzard Cronus, Head iM82 or 78.
True. There are skis that are so much better from groomers. But front side skiing is more than just groomers. If you want something that can work for either groomed, bumps, or park and the crud you get in the east this would fit the bill pretty well. Those ones you mentioned will for sure work better for just groomers (and crud).

Also, if you ski 50% east coast and travel the rest "out west" this could be a good compromise ski if you can only have one.
post #14 of 28
I have seen last year's Public Enemys for $200-250. It's the same ski. Unless you have some need for the new ski, I'd save a few bucks and get the PE.

As skis go, I'd say it's reasonably forgiving (that means it will not punish you if you ski less than perfectly). Not sure why K2 says otherwise, though it sure has a lot more "character" than some of their bland all mountain products. It's a great ski.
post #15 of 28
What's with all the PE comparisons? It's a recycled first generation Seth Pistol from four or five years ago. Check the (identical) dimensions.
A lighter core, different lengths, and no more tip/tail rivets... but those are SETH PISTOLS!
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What's with all the PE comparisons? It's a recycled first generation Seth Pistol from four or five years ago. Check the (identical) dimensions.
A lighter core, different lengths, and no more tip/tail rivets... but those are SETH PISTOLS!
Model: Seth Pistol
Size(cm) / Radius(m): 169/? 179/? 189/24
Sidecut: 128/95/118
Length Tested: 179cm

K2 Extreme
Dimensions: 118/85/109
Sizes: 159, 164, 169, 174, 179
Performance: 40% - 60%
Radius: 14mm/Standard Taper
Construction: Vertical Urethane/ABS Hybrid Sidewall
Core: Fir

Don't think so
post #17 of 28
i can tell you with all certainty that the extreme is a rebadged pe
post #18 of 28
Extreme = PE ≠ Pistol
post #19 of 28
Went with the recommendations here and ordered last year's PE for $299 from Skipro. Maybe $50 more than I've seen, but they had my size and will ship free! Psyched! An ideal binding for a 164 PE?
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Went with the recommendations here and ordered last year's PE for $299 from Skipro. Maybe $50 more than I've seen, but they had my size and will ship free! Psyched! An ideal binding for a 164 PE?

I have mine mounted with a tyrolia railflex plate. But I love my bindings so much, that I only own one binding, and I'll just mount each of my skis with a plate.
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I like these skis with the flattest bindings you can find. I have Salomon Z12Ti on mine, but also like the Tyrolia/Head LD-12 or Peak/Mojo 12/15.
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i can tell you with all certainty that the extreme is a rebadged pe
I have put my old Seths base-to-base with the new Extremes. They matched perfectly! Am I imagining this? Upon asking the rep, he said that it was indeed the old Pistol shape with a super light (fir-not spruce/fir) core. I gotta say, it's NOT a revamped PE.
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I have put my old Seths base-to-base with the new Extremes. They matched perfectly! Am I imagining this? Upon asking the rep, he said that it was indeed the old Pistol shape with a super light (fir-not spruce/fir) core. I gotta say, it's NOT a revamped PE.
i've owned the original seth pistols, the original enemies, the 80mm public enemies, and the 85mm pe's, and after holding the extremes, i can say with almost certainty that they are, in fact, the 85mm pe's rebadged. which would make sense, since the stats that k2 lists for the extreme are exactly the same as the pe...
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
I have put my old Seths base-to-base with the new Extremes. They matched perfectly! Am I imagining this? Upon asking the rep, he said that it was indeed the old Pistol shape with a super light (fir-not spruce/fir) core. I gotta say, it's NOT a revamped PE.
It's not a revamped PE, it is *exactly the same* as last year's PE except for name/graphics. This has been covered here quite a bit, by people who know. Let's not add confusion where it's not needed.
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It's not a revamped PE, it is *exactly the same* as last year's PE except for name/graphics. This has been covered here quite a bit, by people who know. Let's not add confusion where it's not needed.
They might ski the same... but that new graphic puts the 06/07 version to shame.
post #26 of 28
MY BAD!! I was confusing the new Extreme with the new Sodo. OOoops!
post #27 of 28
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They might ski the same... but that new graphic puts the 06/07 version to shame.
but 200 bucks for 07 or older? or 500 bucks for the extreme graphics.

lucky for k2 there are alot of suckers out there.
post #28 of 28
Hey, I like the army guy graphics on my PEs. But then again, I also like this helmet:



I got that on Tramdock for $32 a few weeks ago (great warm weather helmet).
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