Originally Posted by olylady
Because of the lower price, HyVent is probably a DWR coating...I couldn't find any info on it either.
Fit is most important, so I'd give them a try.
Try as I may (multiple late nights trying many different web searches) I still can't find a Goretex, Dermizax, etc. suspendered pant in a small/short (except the too-high-bibbed for me Arcteryx). My conclusion is that a pant with a lesser waterproof technology are the only apparent choices for us forgotten short people
- a $150 TNF Varius Guide with HyVent or a $200 Spyder Tarantula with Entrant GII.
I'm taking your advice to focus on fit, seam sealing and waterproof zips....
The TNF seems like a better choice than the Spyder - mainly the fact that the Spyder has exposed side zips that are not waterproof, while the TNF has a velcroed flap over the side zips. Can't really judge the seam-sealing since they are both lined. Fit seems fairly similar though I won't really know until I get the short model from the TNF website (local stores only carry the regular). The real tie-breakers are the several posts I've found indicating that HyVent actually works well (while I am skeptical of Entrant GII), and that the Spyders are insulated (which gives me hot flashes just thinking about the consequences).It amazes me what TNF can pack into a $150 pant
- suspenders, full side zips with velcro flaps, drop seat, articulated knees, lined, etc. The Patagonia's I am replacing is similar in design to the TNF (though it is probably more bullet-proof), has a few less features, uses H2No vs. a high $ membrane, and cost $260 10 years ago (that would be how much in today's dollars!). I guess that's the power of Chinese manufacturing!
Thanks for your help and advice - I'll report back on the fit, waterproofness, etc. as the season progresses!