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post #1 of 22
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I grew up skiing everyday after school (and every weekend) in Michigan. I've unfortunately moved to Texas and will be living here for a couple of years. I do get the chance every now and again to go on ski trips up to CO. Problem now is that I am so out of the ski game that I have no idea where to start with skis (not like the old days when you could just borrow a buddies for a few runs ).


Last year I picked up some boots of craigslist after shopping around. Ended up with Tecnica Vento 8's which I'm in love with. However due to some poor communication on the sellers part I ended up with a boot 2 sizes to small (25.5 vs. 27.5). Was the best and worst days of skiing ever! My feet and calves where so swollen I couldn't walk, lost my big toe nail, but managed to do my fair share of shredding


So I'm going to be selling those boots in hopes of replacing them with the same boots in a bigger size I purchased some new scott polls, so what I'm left with is replacing my old POS skis


Old skis are some Solomon X-screams in the 173+ size category (can't remember, but they are long). These are many years old and are much like old school straight skis that we all grew up on. Time for something different.


I'm 5'11.75" so a short 6'. Right now I'm about 180 lbs. I ski as much powder/trees as I can. But being an 'out-of-stater', I'm kinda left to what the weather brings (How i wish for the day when I can move to CO and ski fresh powder every morning ). Here's what I'm looking for:


Enough float for powder
Won't be completely worthless when ski-ing the 'what's left' areas at resorts (bumps, crud, you know what I'm talking about).
Basically the all around wonder ski that no one makes
Need a '1 pair ski' that'll handle everything as I'm not checking 2 pairs of skis, nor do i have room for 2 pair of skiis in my budget.



I've skied Rossignol, Nordica, Solomon, Elan, Fischer, K2... etc through the days. I'm not sure where they all are now. Let me know what you think would be a good ski. Looking for 07/08 skis to keep the prices down.



Thanks! ~ Mike
post #2 of 22
Welcome to EpicSki, from another Michigander!!

My first thought is get your boots then do some demo'ing.

My second thought is go for a midfat so you can have the best of both worlds. The Blizzard Titan Cronus should be on your short list to demo. Perhaps in a 180cm.

My husband is your size and liked the cronus a bunch. He also liked the Volkl AC4(40) and the Head IM 88. But he bought the Blizzard Titan Cronus


Others will chime in soon with a bunch more ideas for your short list.
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
I would love to demo some skis. The problem lies in that I'm living in Austin Texas, so the demo days are few and far between :P

Before coming to Epicski I was kinda looking at the K2 Apache Recon. But after reading about it I was a little concerned about the width for the back country. Would really prefer to give up most of the 'all mountian' side of the ski for more back country performance.
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Yeah I've considered doing some demos. I'd prefer to purchase my own though in all reality. Add to it that I usually go during the peak rate times in the season, which i would guess leave 'must have' demos in low supply.



Edit:
Thoughts on Scott Mission's?
post #5 of 22
Sounds like the Nordica Top Fuel, Jet Fuel, Volkl AC30-40, or Dynastar 8000 or Mythic Rider would be great places to start.

Unfortunately there's no finger-in-mouth symbol to put next to the Recon - it's a solid notch (or two) below those listed above.
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
So you would be saying that the Recon is my best bet? I'm liking what I'm reading about Scott Missions.
post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by Tikiclub2 View Post
So you would be saying that the Recon is my best bet? I'm liking what I'm reading about Scott Missions.
Sounds like the Nordica Top Fuel, Jet Fuel, Volkl AC30-40, or Dynastar 8000 or Mythic Rider would be great places to start.

Unfortunately there's no finger-in-mouth symbol to put next to the Recon - it's a solid notch (or two) below those listed above.

"Recon would be my best bet" is not what I was trying to convey. "Finger-in-mouth (throw-up), solid notch (or two) below those listed above" aren't real positive statements. Don't know about Scott Missions, but those skis I mentioned above are definately head-of-their class.
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
lol. Okay I think I understand what your saying now. Recon = stay away
post #9 of 22
Recons are a good ski if you're thinking smooth front side ski, but they aren't something you want to take back country. In your earlier description you said you were interested in something that has a versatile set up which means you may want to stay away from a system ski. several of those snofun listed are system skis, as well as the Recon.

I am not familiar with the Scott Missions, hopefully someone with some knowledge can offer some advice.

I go back to my original thought in this thread, Blizzard Titan Cronus. its 88 under foot and has the binding possibility for a Duke if you are truly interested in back country skiing.
Perhaps Whiteroom will have something to say about this possibility.
post #10 of 22
i'd tend to agree that demo is the best thing to do, since cost seems to be a factor, maybe an idea of how many days you plan to ski this yr? If not many, then demo may easily be offset by cost of new airline baggage fees. If out for a day, you can swap em out thoughout the day with no adder and with most places, they'll credit the fees if you buy. If you call ahead with a few ski's you like, you may be able to pre-negotiate a price, i did for my wifes first set of ski's which they matched a very good sale price.

I am by no means any expert on recommending stuff, i'm between maybe intermediate looking to move up, but based buying on ski's by comparing reviews hon epicski and other sites. I have found that Skicanada magazine gives what if find as more useful for initially comparing skis as it gives a range of weight for the skier as well as if one skis with finesse vrs just powering. My BMI index certainly can use help (195 last yr) and not having the grace of my wife, tend to force my ski's into a turn than anything graceful.

So i guess my recommendation if not demo'ing is trying to match up how you ski to others here (epicski) and if you're not the regretful type, take the risk if the price is good.

of course, if you have ski buddies with system (integrated) bindings, they may just loan em to ya. then you can try em out then get demo's based on what you liked/disliked about them (or ask for opinions here)
post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 
Hmm. Yeah I have never been a 'front side' skier. I usually hit the bowls as soon as possible, and venture to the trees when the fluff has been skied. I'll have to look into demo-ing. I'll be driving up from Texas to wherever we go (either oootah or co, not sure yet), who offers demo's? I'd like to not pay 'on mountain' prices :P
post #12 of 22
If you're really that focused on off-piste and powder, wouldn't you be better of with something wider? Maybe Fisher watea 94s or B4s, or something like that. If you don't care about the frontside much, you might as well give something up there for more enjoyment where you really like to ski...
post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
I agree. This sight has been full of good insight. I had been looking at B4's before I came to the sight. I really like the Nordica Hot Rod lineup from what I'm reading.


What size width do I need for floating? Length suggestions?
post #14 of 22
Well, opinions will vary. But I think you'd want a waist in the high 80s to mid 90s, and you'll want a length of 175 to 185 or so.
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by Tikiclub2 View Post
Hmm. Yeah I have never been a 'front side' skier. I usually hit the bowls as soon as possible, and venture to the trees when the fluff has been skied. I'll have to look into demo-ing. I'll be driving up from Texas to wherever we go (either oootah or co, not sure yet), who offers demo's? I'd like to not pay 'on mountain' prices :P
Last time I looked at the map, I discovered that Taos is still between Austin and Colorado, making it a much closer drive and that means more skiing and less driving.
post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by Tikiclub2 View Post
Hmm. Yeah I have never been a 'front side' skier. I usually hit the bowls as soon as possible, and venture to the trees when the fluff has been skied. I'll have to look into demo-ing. I'll be driving up from Texas to wherever we go (either oootah or co, not sure yet), who offers demo's? I'd like to not pay 'on mountain' prices :P
I am not sure if it would work for you (or be available for purchase in high season), but I saw what I thought were good rental deals at Breezes in Idaho Springs, CO- 3 day puch card(?)for around $50 (standard rental gear) and unlimited season demos for around $175 (including upgraded boots). This is really a better deal for Front-rangers as the shop is not in resort (just off I-70 from Denver) and you can only keep each pair for up to 3 days. I did not have time to look at what they offered, but they said it was the higher ended stuff for the demos.

If you come to Summit CO and decide to buy, I might have a pair of 186 Fischer Misfits for sale in a few months. Very versatile off piste ski that is exellent in soft bumps, mixed snow, moderate powder and decent on piste for a 96 mm ski...search for reviews of the Fischer Atua here as it is the same ski.
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
In your earlier description you said you were interested in something that has a versatile set up which means you may want to stay away from a system ski. several of those snofun listed are system skis, as well as the Recon. .
Apparently one of us is lost. Where'd the "backcountry requirement come from? He said -

"Enough float for powder, Won't be completely worthless when ski-ing the 'what's left' areas at resorts (bumps, crud, you know what I'm talking about).
Need a '1 pair ski' that'll handle everything

Don't understand the "versatile" comment either. I've had my Mythic Riders "fluid" skis out in pow, steeps, trees etc and never thought that it wasn't versatile.

Anyway, I stand by my suggestions, and agree that looking wider isn;t a bad idea either.
post #18 of 22
Hello!

I would like to ask what backcountry ski, 'front side' skier, means???


Thanks,
Eduardo
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by edlam View Post
Hello!

I would like to ask what backcountry ski, 'front side' skier, means???


Thanks,
Eduardo
Frontside = ski area trails, usually groomed, though not always

backside = part of the ski area that is not groomed and has not cut trails (a lot of Colorado areas are split between front/back--I think that's where the term comes from), but more and more ski areas are opening sections of the mountain that they leave ungroomed/trailless

backcountry = pick a mountain somewhere, park the car, hike up, ski down. Advantages are: deeper snow, fewer people, if any, the whole experience is just awesome, in the true sense of that word; disadvantages: nature can be cruel, the BC can be dangerous to the newbie and old hand alike.
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
Apparently one of us is lost. Where'd the "backcountry requirement come from? He said -

"Enough float for powder, Won't be completely worthless when ski-ing the 'what's left' areas at resorts (bumps, crud, you know what I'm talking about).
Need a '1 pair ski' that'll handle everything

Don't understand the "versatile" comment either. I've had my Mythic Riders "fluid" skis out in pow, steeps, trees etc and never thought that it wasn't versatile.

Anyway, I stand by my suggestions, and agree that looking wider isn;t a bad idea either.
First, let me say that its not uncommon for me to be lost
Second, I agree with you on two of your ski suggestions in a huge way, but hesitate on the first three in your list. All are great skis, but not necessarily target skis for the description of the OP.
Could I possibly be wrong? absolutely. Don't tell anyone, but I've been wrong before.
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Sounds like the Nordica Top Fuel, Jet Fuel, Volkl AC30-40, or Dynastar 8000 or Mythic Rider would be great places to start.
post #21 of 22
Fantastic!!

Thanks a lot for the class!

Regards,
Eduardo
post #22 of 22
Thread Starter 
I'm keeping my eyes open for some nordicas right now... still open to suggestions. I'm going to be looking for around a 175 (or whatever Nordica offers near this). My last pair seamed to big in the trees was like throwing around a tree trunks moving those things.
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