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Help me build something that will complement my Tigershark 12fts...

post #1 of 21
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I plan on having Kyle build a pair of skis for me in the near future, and need help with dimensions and lengths. My freeskiing quiver already contains the following 2:

Volkl P70 SL - 156cm, 109-64-96, 12.8m Radius
Volkl Tigershark 12ft - 175cm, 124-79-108, 17.1m Radius

I am deeply in love with both of the above skis, and refuse to cut ether of them out of the picture. I love using the SL's for steep and hard stuff when I'm in the mood to do quick snappy turns. I love to use the Tigersharks for those cruzer style Blues and Blacks (like Walking Boss at Loon), stuff with a fresh coat (2'-5' of powder), and for medium to small radius turns (the skis rip when you throw them into corners).

Really what I want is a GS-style ski (possibly with a 20-24m radius) that is a bit wider than race cut skis. I plan on getting something in 170ish length, maybe a little longer. I have no real need for a powder ski (powder occurrences here are fairly rare, and if I happen to venture out west I'll probably just rent Mantras.
post #2 of 21
This is potentially going to be the ski that I can relate to most.

It might be time to bust out the CF bag of tricks...
post #3 of 21
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Would something like 110-72-97 at 173 be good? I don't have the radius calc, so what does this come out to? 23m?
post #4 of 21
Do you ski bumps a lot? If so, on what? Will it be on these?
post #5 of 21
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Would something like 110-72-97 at 173 be good? I don't have the radius calc, so what does this come out to? 23m?
18.4 according to Physics Man's calculator...
post #6 of 21
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Do you ski bumps a lot? If so, on what? Will it be on these?
No bumps. They need to be able to run a NASTAR/Mountain Dew VC course quickly too. For bumps I have my older GS racers and P70SL's, the work really well with them. The P70s ripped when I went to Tuckerman's earlier this year (went all the way to the base with them from Hillman's). I really want a 20-24m radius though.
post #7 of 21
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anyone?
post #8 of 21
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What should I use for core materials? What does Volkl use?
post #9 of 21
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What should I use for core materials? What does Volkl use?
Volkl's Sensorwood core is Polar and Beech.
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by krp8128 View Post
Volkl's Sensorwood core is Polar bear (it's true, they use real polar bear to get tenacious edge grip) and Beech.
You might have meant poplar.
post #11 of 21
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You might have meant poplar.
I might have...
post #12 of 21
Polar bear would probably make for a very damp ski, but I would avoid hot boxing or even ironing them.
post #13 of 21
I think that when the are made Rise To The Top's ski must now be called the "Polar Bear"
post #14 of 21
How about a wood-core M:EX beater 177cm 116/84/108, good for slush too?

EDIT: You seem to like a 13-16mm taper over 170cm, so you could conceivably make the tip fatter and the tail narrower on the above ski. If you wanted a 17mm taper, it would come out to something like 122/84/105.
post #15 of 21
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How about a wood-core M:EX beater 177cm 116/84/108, good for slush too?

EDIT: You seem to like a 13-16mm taper over 170cm, so you could conceivably make the tip fatter and the tail narrower on the above ski. If you wanted a 17mm taper, it would come out to something like 122/84/105.
Hahaha, Polar Bear. I feel that 84 may be a bit too wide and would reduce edge response, so I want to keep it above 66 and under 78.

I wonder what polar bear would smell like after a few hotbox cycles. mmmmmmmm :P. On that note, how does ptex differ from normal graphite/splinted graphite bases with hotboxing?
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I think you're painting yourself into a corner here, but...

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Originally Posted by Rise To The Top View Post
Hahaha, Polar Bear. I feel that 84 may be a bit too wide and would reduce edge response, so I want to keep it above 66 and under 78.


109 76 93 then. Very close to midfat design from ~2001 (Enemy); might be fun in bumps tho .
post #17 of 21
Don't most GS skis have metal in them? Why would you go short (170cm) for a GS ski?
post #18 of 21
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Don't most GS skis have metal in them? Why would you go short (170cm) for a GS ski?
I'm looking at 173 and 178. I'm only 5'9", and would like something a bit shorter for rec-racing and freeskiing (I race GS on 187s or 180s depending on the course). Kyle is going to be trying carbon and metal inserts. If he is able to do them I might go with a carbon insert in the front of the ski and titanium in the tails for a variation in flex, or I might simply have carbon.
post #19 of 21
You could do an homage to the volkl T50 5* original was available in either 175 or 168cm shape was about 111-68-98 and about 16m turn radius.
post #20 of 21
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You could do an homage to the volkl T50 5* original was available in either 175 or 168cm shape was about 111-68-98 and about 16m turn radius.
A bit too tight of a radius...

I think I'm gonna go with 108-71-96 at 173 or 178 with a waist to tail of 790, as the 71 waist will be inbetween the P70s and TS's in width, and the ski will have a bigger radius than my GS boards.
post #21 of 21
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A bit too tight of a radius...

I think I'm gonna go with 108-71-96 at 173 or 178 with a waist to tail of 790, as the 71 waist will be inbetween the P70s and TS's in width, and the ski will have a bigger radius than my GS boards.
I have a mold already set up for a 172. Making a 173 would just ad a tiny (I don't even know if we could measure it) bit more curve to the tip.
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