Originally Posted by at_nyc
That's the same "inflated" cost everyone else, including you, pays, whether you use the FF miles or not.
So, by NOT using FF miles, you're also paying the same "inflated" price...only you're wasting it, paying the 20% premium for nothing!
OK, I think I see the issue. We've been talking about two somewhat different things. You've been using "FF miles" to mean purely awards from the airlines for flying them. I've been using it mainly to mean bonus miles/points from credit cards that add to your FF miles, because that's how my family accrues most of our points (I don't need to fly for my job). Your APR on a "bonus miles" credit card is higher, so you're paying slowly for your "free" points. As far as the actual miles from doing a lot of flying per se, you're right, we all pay the inflated price. In fact, I assume if you are required to fly for your job, you expense it, so maybe more accurately I'm paying for your bonus miles.
As far as your other comments about my original post, please don't erect straw men so you can knock them over. You're not even quoting my quote accurately. I didn't say that anyone who disagreed with me is silly. I said that the QUESTION was silly, and I apologized casually first ("Sorry") to signal no harm was intended by the comment. Psych 1 teaches us that when disagreeing, make sure you are taking on the argument and not the person; I try to do that.
I also tend to use "you" constantly in my posts (and speech) as a plural, like the southern "you all," instead of terms like "we" or "one." So not at_nyc personally, at least until later when I began to reply to you specifically.
You seem to believe that I should have just stated all this as "my own special experience." Well, sounds fine, very sanitary, with loads of qualifiers, kinda like a student who doesn't want to go out on a limb. Also very popular among passive aggressives. But here's the catch: it's usually an implicit inductive argument, that one's own specific experience holds for/has some bearing on a larger class of others' experiences. Otherwise, conversation just becomes a sterile series of data swaps: "Oh, well I found A." "Really? I found B." "Oh, and I found C. What's on TV?" So why not just come out and make an argument about what you (plural) believe to be true, instead of implying it?
Onward. Never did I ever state that "everyone else" spends 1K to 3K on a trip, I couched it as a hypothetical ("so you're gonna...") which I regarded as ballpark for getting to a destination resort and staying somewhere and eating and skiing. If you can do it for far less through your FF miles and friends near the resort, for the umpteenth time, happy for you.
Nor do I "over generalize" my situation. In my initial post, I make an argument, with several premises and a conclusion. Nowhere does the argument state that a specific case holds for everyone, and in fact, in several places like my comments that you're lucky to live near three airports, and my "uncle fred" example, I make it clear than I'm using a probability argument; if you (plural) rent skis, I claim you stand a greater risk of having bad edges etc. even though some individuals (like you) may not have that specific experience. Probability arguments (which use the "some persons" class of premises) rarely over generalize because they do not make strong claims about all cases.
Nor do I give any evidence that "in my mind" I think that my experience hold for people of all heights. Always nice to have my mind read for me, but what I state is that I am roughly average size and that means my lengths are in greater demand. (Perhaps that's even what I think
.) Again, I am just making a case for risk. If this risk doesn't include you, again, all good.
Look, let's just drop it...