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Design me the ultimate east coast tree ski

post #1 of 16
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The recent posts about homemade custom skis got me thinking about what I would want if I were to afford one. I was trying to think about what the perfect ski would be for skiing east coast trees. They will have to handle snow ranging from 1 1/2 foot of fluff to breakable crust to unbreakable crust to heavy, choppy crud. They will have to ski firm bumps well. I was thinking 90 ish waist to handle the deeper days, and lots of sidecut to help get 'em around quick when things get tight. (But not so much that they are hooky, not schmearable, or tough to slide in the bumps.) If you have never skied them, the trees around here get really, really tight and it is important to be able to get these around quickly. I'm 5'7 155, so I was thinking a 175 might be a nice length. I want a very slightly up-turned tail, but nothing close to a true twin. I want it soft enough to bend around the bumps that inevidably form in the woods, yet stiff enough that it won't feel unstable while straightlining the run-outs back to the lifts. I dont think I want any metal in it to keep it light, but I'm not sure. I was thinking something like 130 90 110 might be an interesting shape, but I dunno... I just picked those numbers out of the air... does that sound like the dimensions of a ski that already exists? According to Physics Man's Radius Calculator this would give it just under a 20m radius. What do you think? Build me the perfect ski...
post #2 of 16
Oldsoft Rossi Bandit B2s, 174 cm with a few modifications for me: some rubber above the edges which will be 0.5,3; some vibration damping material sandwiched between base, wood, and very thin metal; most important, electrical fibres that will stiffen them right up at the turn of a switch to suddenly increase rigidity for excursions onto ice and hardpack at speed.
post #3 of 16
I don't like sidecut in bumps or tight trees, funky layered snow uh-uhh. Fairly straight, light, not super wide tips so it could fit into some tighter bump lines, I was sort of thinking of taking the profile of comp bump ski and blowing it up and making it a little stiffer. A ski about 110-90-95 with long rise tips and a no camber. stiff under foot medium tip and tail.

You might want to look at the short icelantic shammys which seem like a ski that could work for what you want. http://www.levelninesports.com/icela...68729302e5b49d
post #4 of 16
Already exists; Mojo 90.
post #5 of 16
Sounds like you should buy some 174cm Public Enemy's and mount them at +1 or 0.

Or, you could get something like my ultimate east tree skiing setup....

post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
The recent posts about homemade custom skis got me thinking about what I would want if I were to afford one. I was trying to think about what the perfect ski would be for skiing east coast trees. They will have to handle snow ranging from 1 1/2 foot of fluff to breakable crust to unbreakable crust to heavy, choppy crud. They will have to ski firm bumps well. I was thinking 90 ish waist to handle the deeper days, and lots of sidecut to help get 'em around quick when things get tight. (But not so much that they are hooky, not schmearable, or tough to slide in the bumps.) If you have never skied them, the trees around here get really, really tight and it is important to be able to get these around quickly. I'm 5'7 155, so I was thinking a 175 might be a nice length. I want a very slightly up-turned tail, but nothing close to a true twin. I want it soft enough to bend around the bumps that inevidably form in the woods, yet stiff enough that it won't feel unstable while straightlining the run-outs back to the lifts. I dont think I want any metal in it to keep it light, but I'm not sure. I was thinking something like 130 90 110 might be an interesting shape, but I dunno... I just picked those numbers out of the air... does that sound like the dimensions of a ski that already exists? According to Physics Man's Radius Calculator this would give it just under a 20m radius. What do you think? Build me the perfect ski...
I thin the ski you are describing is thE blizzard Titan Cronus. It seems to me that the Ultimate East Coast Tree Ski changes every day. Some days it would be a 165 slalom, other days a Volkl Katana. That Cronus does split the middle pretty well as do so many others.
post #7 of 16
Mantra hands down
post #8 of 16
08 Line Blend or Prophet 90 if you want some metal...I think the Meathead guys might agree
post #9 of 16
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08 Line Blend or Prophet 90 if you want some metal...I think the Meathead guys might agree
Don't they ski for head?
post #10 of 16
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Or, you could get something like my ultimate east tree skiing setup....

Have you RIDDEN these?!? Is there a review? Pics?
post #11 of 16
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Don't they ski for head?
They're Ho's. Some of them are on Line, some on Rossi maybe some are still on Head.
post #12 of 16
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Don't they ski for head?
They are sponsored by Line now. But yeah, some still stick with Head, Rossi...even saw some Pontoons in the last flick.
post #13 of 16
If your seriously tree skiing most of the time, without having skied them, I would look at something like the rossi S7 or a similar ski.
Check out this video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...83485914536420

You'll need to cut and paste the link.

The video guy is on spatulas, the S7 seems to combine the benefits of spatula shape with sidecut under foot. I demoed and bought a pair of DPS wailer 105s. It's amazing what a little tip rocker can do for float and quickness in the trees. My 105s are 188cm, a pretty long ski by modern standards, but I found them ridiculously easy to to throw around in tight trees. If you don't want to go as radical as something like the S7, I would look at a ski with a little tip rocker like DPS's, Salomon Lord, K2 Obsethed or similar. I would go mid 170's at 190 lbs if this ski was specifically for eastern tree skiing.
post #14 of 16
never mind the cut and paste tne link works fine
post #15 of 16
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Sounds like you should buy some 174cm Public Enemy's and mount them at +1 or 0.

Or, you could get something like my ultimate east tree skiing setup....

I didn't think you skied a 146 since you were like 7?
post #16 of 16
oops, Salomon Czar s the ski I meant.
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