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intermediate/advance volkl ski recommendation

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hi guys, I have another question for you. last year some of you recommended that i get the Volkl AC2 (163cm), but ended up reselling them as they made my legs tired.


I have been skiing for about 3 years and am looking again this year. As for Volkl, i have read numerous posts on here and have narrowed it to: ac30/ac20/tigershark 10???

I’m 5'9, a male skier, and around 157 pounds. I am an expert at intermediate and very comfortable with advanced hills. i primarily ski east coast. what do you recommend and in what size? also, if not volkl, i've been reading that some of you guys rec the "fischer red heat."



anyway, what other skis out there would be good for me? any opinions would be appreciated and thanks in advance!!!
post #2 of 11
Could you elaborate on how the AC2s made you legs tired?

AC 30, Tigershark 10 ft, Fischer Progressor, Head Super Shape, are all good skis.

Tell us what type of turns you will be making, big/small in between, and how fast you typically ski (fastest on the hill, middle of the pack, golf cart speed), and what you type of terrain is most important for your ski to work well on.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
the previous 3 years i rented and tried demos. they were shorter/lesser (crappy)n skis, but never made my legs feel like jelly. however, last year on the ac2's, i got tired after 5-6 hours - i felt like i could bite it at any time.

in short, they just made my legs tired.

i love to make turns, but can go down direct if need be. i would consider myself a pretty good intermediate/advanced skier as i can handle all blacks and say i ski them with 75% confidence. (i.e. can make it down without falling) i also would say i'm middle of the pack in speed.

i mainly ski at holiday valley NY and peak n peak on the east coast
post #4 of 11
OK, you seem to be an intermediate in search of a grippy all mountain that is fairly flexible for your lighter weight. I'd guess your legs got tired because you were trying to slide turns and Volkls don't like that. Might have been a touch short for you too, so less stable if you ski fast. Would suggest Head iM78's, Fischer Progressor 8's, or Dynastar Contact 10's. They are forgiving, smooth, can handle a variety of styles and speeds, will grow with you. The iM78's will be damp, solid, better for crud and light powder, the Contacts will be versatile, especially good in bumps, trees, and variable snow, the Progressors will be best for ice and different turn shapes, but will prefer to carve. Would not agree about the Supershapes, unless you like to do lots of short to medium radius turns, stay on edge, want to learn to carve Right Now. Then all good. Tigershark 10's are said to be nice skis, too, but may be a touch stiff for you. Stay away from the 12's.
post #5 of 11
As mentioned, a ski that is too grippy, too stiff or the wrong length can make you feel tired for various reasons. It's possible that you are fighting the excess grip when you really need to be sliding a bit. A ski that's trying to grip when you are telling it to skid can feel "harsh" or chattery. It's also possible that the skis being a little too short make you want to turn too much in order to stabilize them.

I would take a differing approach to a ski reccomendation. Rather than suggest an even grippier and higher end ski such as those on your list, I'd suggest you consider a mid level K2 such as the Stryker/sidewinder. K2's in general are somewhat softer in flex and easy going. They are damp and smooth even in situations where they may be a little shy in grip. The overall ride is stable and easy (much like driving a caddilac)

SJ
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
hey guys, i just wanted to say thanks for all your feedback and that i value your opinions. i went to a local ski shop today and asked the same question. the two sales people kept on trying to sell me "more ski" and recommended the tigershark 12 and other higher end skis.


i just looking for a moderate good rated ski. nothing fancy so skis around the ac20 may be better for me.
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by readytoski07 View Post
the two sales people kept on trying to sell me "more ski" and recommended the tigershark 12 and other higher end skis.
What a surprise!

Besides the bad humor and occasional skiing intelligence here at Epic, you should know that a number of our members own or work in ski shops. Not all shops automatically push Volkls (however fine they may be), and not all automatically suggest a higher end (eg, more expensive) model. Suggest you ask around here for a good shop or contact in your area, or you could visit some of the online stores represented by folks here. Try the search function for reviews of specific models you're thinking about. Also, we have a bunch of factory reps, instructors, and racers gone to seed who can help you with specific brands in terms of your needs.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by readytoski07 View Post
hey guys, i just wanted to say thanks for all your feedback and that i value your opinions. i went to a local ski shop today and asked the same question. the two sales people kept on trying to sell me "more ski" and recommended the tigershark 12 and other higher end skis.


i just looking for a moderate good rated ski. nothing fancy so skis around the ac20 may be better for me.
Great conclusions so far....here is a cautionary note. The AC20 is not dramatically different than what you have. Different yes, but not dramatically so. You seem to have Volkl on the brain and that's fine but Volkls are likely to present a similar problem to what you have. I'd think outside the Volkl box for now and get something a little softer,more damp, and easier going. If you don't like the K2 idea, there are several Rossis (Z-3/5 for example) that might fit your needs better.

SJ
post #9 of 11
Unless the length was significantly wrong for you, the AC20 will be similar enough to your AC2 that you'll likely have the same problems. Volkls are typically happiest when carving at fast or faster speeds, particularly as you get into their "advanced" and "expert" skis. Fighting this characteristic would wear anyone out. Unless you spend a huge chunk of your time in "go fast" mode, I'd suggest looking at skis from another manufacturer. Not that there aren't appropriate Volkls out there for you, but maybe another would make you much happier.

(Wow. Me, trying to steer someone AWAY from Volkls )

Edit: I was composing as SierraJim was posting. Hmmmmmmmm. Interestingly enough, I would recommend the Rossi Z5 as well.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by volklgirl View Post

(Wow. Me, trying to steer someone AWAY from Volkls )

Edit: I was composing as SierraJim was posting. Hmmmmmmmm. Interestingly enough, I would recommend the Rossi Z5 as well.

Great minds.................

SJ
post #11 of 11
Then again maybe you are just skiing faster and making more turns. 6 hours of hard exercise can make you tired, especially if it's an exercise that you don't do everyday.

It's been said before, but it needs saying here.

Demo.

Rent one of the higher end skis and one of the lower ones and see what you like. Head Supershape or C160, Fisher progressor 8+ or Fisher RX6 or RX4.... You get the idea.
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