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The Perfect Big Mountain and Backcountry Ski

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hello all, this is my first post on these forums. I am currently in the market for a really good big mountain and backcountry ski

I'm 6' 1" 175 lbs. Right now I have volkl AC3's for the groomers and hard days at the resort and G3 Rapid Transits for backcountry and fluffier resort days. I'm looking for a twin tip ski that will be really good in the powder, stable at high speeds and in vairable conditions; basically a backcountry ski for skiing big steep lines, one that can will preform well in the interior BC powder.

I've never skied a rockered ski but I've been eyeing the 189cm K2 ObSETHed for some time now. If anyone has any opinions about this ski or can recommend something esle that would be good, I'd love to hear!
post #2 of 15
If you want to go rockered the Obsethed is definitely an option though I might suggest you look at the Armada JJ too. It's a little stiffer and lots of fun
post #3 of 15
Welcome to Epic. From my perspective, backcountry and big mountain are two different categories. Also not clear why you need a real twin tip for this mission, but if you're set on that, the Head Supermojo 105, Line Mothership or Movement Baggy, all long, would seem to fit your bill, especially the bit about big lines in BC.

But I'd suggest thinking about something more like a moderately rockered front/traditional or flip tail. DPS 120 Lotus, Bros Lhasa Pow, Prior Overlord fit. More traditional designs like the Nordica Blower and BD Verdict seem very versatile, and the Verdicts are pretty light. I saw several Movement Goliaths with AT last time I was in BC, so maybe those are worth a look too. IMO, the Dynastar XXL is the most stable Big Mountain ski in the universe, but it's heavy. OTOH, you see a lot of them in the northern Rockies with AT, so maybe...
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
That looks like a very interesting ski. Thank you for the suggestion. It's not rockered though is it? Do you know of the pros and cons of a rockered or slightly rockered ski? I know the design is to enhance manouverability in powder, but does it do anything else for you? Would it give you significantly less edge grip on say a fairly packed chute?
post #5 of 15
DPS Lotus 120
post #6 of 15
I'm not sure what would be better for all conditions bc than a G3.

Rapid Transits? The asym? Do you tele?

They're fat enough for versatile touring. Apparently the asym makes them quick edge to edge.

How are you looking to improve? Pow only?

A rockered tip is probably right on. Usually FAT. Good float. Reverse camber = bad at skinning.

Really? More specific touring than a G3 rapid transit.

ahem. gear whore.
scuse me.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the recommendations Beyond and samurai.

The G3 rapid transits are definitely a versatile ski. Good edge grip and carving ability, lightweight, relatively fat and stable.

The downfall of the rapid transit I think is that its construction is not that durable and so they will supposedly loose camber faster than most other skis if used for drops and such. Also, at 128-92-116 they don't offer the most float.

I do tele on occasion but I'm primarily an alpine skier. I guess what I'm looking for more specifically is a ski that will offer more float than the rapid transits, handle cliff landings better, stay reasonably versatile on crud, crust and even hardpack and offer more stability than the rapid transit. (I guess I don't care much about weight, even if they will be used for touring.)

Oh, and I like to ride switch and spin off stuff so that's why I want twin tip.
post #8 of 15
Ah. Then IMO your list got short: Head 105, Bro 180-something stiff orr Movement Baggy. Fatter than that and/or rockered will rule in pow but be somewhere between adequate and weak on hardpack; rockered said to lead to wheelies after air. Softer than above will disallow big lines in BC., and even the Movement is borderline. Not assuming tele, but AT, incidentally.
post #9 of 15
Without the request to land switch the best ski to suit your needs would be the 191 MovementGoliath. It was pretty much designed for exactly what you want, slay all condition big mountain in the backcountry, but it's flat full old school flat tail.

Also there is nothing about the G3 construction methods that will make it break down over time. Materials might not last as long as some other options on the market, but not the construction.
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
Not a full twin for landing switch in pow...unless something has changed from my old 188 Bros or the Big Bros that Sam and Athan are rocking.
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Not a full twin for landing switch in pow...unless something has changed from my old 188 Bros or the Big Bros that Sam and Athan are rocking.
Half-twin.
post #13 of 15
Mmmmm, Bro.........ooooohhhh
post #14 of 15
Landing switch in pow = Volkl Chopstick
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the info. Anyone heard anything about Rossi's new S7 Caballero?
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