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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
I should start off by saying I have a narrow, bony foot and small shins.

Last night I picked up a pair of last years Dalbello Krypton Pros (practically stole them!!). I put them on and walked around the store for about 20 minutes. No pressure points, nothing. It was amazing. Probably the best fitting boots out of the box I've ever worn, racing boots or not.

So I got home and put them on again. Immediately, I got two pressure points. One was on my right foot, right under the bottom buckle. When I move my toes or the boot in a certain way, it feels like a nerve is being pressed against and it sends a quick shooting pain through the dorsal part of my foot.

On my left foot, there is a small pressure point right above my medial ankle. It's there no matter how I position my body or feet.

I think I may just be putting the boots on "wrong." Is there a "correct" way to put on tight race boots? I have been starting on the bottom buckle and working my way up.

If I'm not putting them on wrong, is there anything I can do short of bringing them to a boot fitter?


Edit: I really shoved my heel back and now when I try to wiggle my toes I get the same pain but in the web between my big and middle toe. When I move my toe up, the pain increases, "clicks" and then kind of goes away. Hard to describe. Any ideas?
post #2 of 16
In my experience, people- even those with narrow feet experience moderate to high pressure in the cuboid area when in that boot. Which would be on the opposite side of your foot and lower than the pressure you are feeling on the medial side of your ankle.

Do you have a custom footbed? Were the liners molded? What is your experience wearing ultra high performance stiff boots?

As it is a pretty low instep boot, I suggested to most people that the correct way to buckle that boot was to do the middle buckle first, then the upper buckle, then the instep buckle last and with the least pressure.

Find a good bootfitter that is experienced with Dalbello.
post #3 of 16
you are putting the boots on with the buckles to the outside?
left boot on left foot? right boot on right foot?

get the liners heated, and go ski em. Worry about it IF you still have a pressure point AFTER skiing on them.
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
The buckles go on the OUTSIDE?

This is my first "ultra high-performance" boot. It was not molded to my foot; I just picked it up off the shelf. And I do not have a custom footbed (yet?).

The pressure point on my ankle is gone. I think it was the ankle socks I was wearing. Now it's just the one on my foot.

So I took the liner out and I think the edge of the shell on the inside of the boot is pressing against the liner and my foot. I think a removing a little material there would fix the problem. Maybe not?

I definitely can't ski the way they are. It's like a searing pain in my foot. Otherwise they're a VERY comfortable boot. Much more so than I expected from a race boot.

Another question: what should my toes be doing? Right now they're touching the front of the boot and feel a little curved, but not uncomfortable.
post #5 of 16
get footbeds, try a off the rack (superfoot, sole, etc) and think about a full custom too. Customs are always some amount better, for some lots, for some a little bit better.

Again heat the liners, ski them (just suck it up for even one run) and see if it gets better. Odds are it will. Also with a footbed that will change your foot position in the boot and might help teh pressure point

toes: lightly touching the front of the boot. when you flex your ankle forwards, they should just pull back a bit from the font of the liner (trim your toe nails)
post #6 of 16
You don't say whether or not you are using the ID liner. I'm betting not. If you heat the plastic on the upper surface of the tongue directly over the area that is bothering your foot and flare it out slightly you may find immediate relief.

post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
I'm not sure if I'm using the ID liner. It's a neoprene-like material. Looks like this:

On the outside of the liner it says "Thermo Custom Fit" or something like that. I'm assuming I can heat it? How would I go about doing that?

I do really think it's the shell. I'm no expert but I'm fairly certain the edge is just digging into the liner and my foot under the tongue.

I'll be getting footbeds today and we'll see how that goes.
post #8 of 16
Let me ad a couple of cents in here, not so much having the boot vast expertise as these masters but quite a bit Krypton background.

Sounds to me considering where you have the pain and since you didn't have the pain in the store and not having the complete knowledge of this boot and the lines.. you might have the wraps of the line inside out.(if it os the other way, you will need to reverse it) Note in your picture that the inside of the liner (wrap) goes under the outside. Make sure that is the case when you put them on. Also at the point where wraps meet at the bottom, make sure there is no crimping there. You can check this, once you put your foot in the liner hold up the tongue and make sure that area is sitting in well.

If I missed something in this thought process, Lou should be able to fill in.
post #9 of 16
You are using the ID liner. Footbeds may help, but I'll go out on a limb and say probably not much although you can certainly decide for yourself. Get the beds, they'll add to comfort anyway.

The solution I applied to the tongue does not apply to the ID liner but does apply to the shell. Heat the area that you thinking is digging in and just gently bend it out of the way. Probably best to have a fitter do it.

post #10 of 16
Make sure you are using a thin sock.

Sock thickness could be a concideration as well. I have had several situation where fitting in the shop we would use a thin to medium sock, which is best for a new boot, and then the customer would go home and use a thick one, which can produce pressure points. I know this may sound like a simple salution but sometimes simple salutions work. Just a thought...it can make a big difference in a new boot that hasn't packed out a little.
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice.

I really don't know if I should get footbeds. They feel pretty good the way they are. I have had custom footbeds, these boots have a little less arch support without but are otherwise fine. I don't know if that will put too much pressure on my heel--I had growth plate problems when I was younger (I'm 18). Hoping the problem isn't recreated.

I definitely need to open the flaps of the shell a bit. I think my right foot is smaller in "diameter" than the flaps of the shell, so they press on points instead of evenly over the width of the foot. One of the points happens to be a tendon that "rolls" under the skin, and over the nerve under it. It's driving me nuts. My left foot does not have this problem. Loosening the bottom buckle one notch makes it a little better.

Anyway I think I'm going to try to heat the shell. How should I apply heat to it?

Thanks again. You guys have been a huge help.
post #12 of 16
Have you by chance had the liners heat molded to your feet as part of the screamin deal you got?

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post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
I haven't had the liners heat molded. Is that something I can do myself? If so, how?
post #14 of 16
I would ask the guys that gave you the screamin deal as they are the ones that made some money on the deal!
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
I really don't think they would or are equipped to do that. It's a small ski and golf outlet. The only reason I bought the boots there was because I had a decent idea of what I was looking for in a boot and how to judge roughly how they fit and how they would perform on the mountain. The staff wasn't much help. I think the slight inconvenience I'm going through was well worth the $300 price tag though.
post #16 of 16
To do the liners at home yourself requires an oven set to the correct temperature, some toe caps to extend your toes and get you some room, something to elevate the boot toe while you are standing in the boots and they are cooling.

Home ovens are not necessarily designed for this job however and if you over cook them then the deal is gone.
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