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The CERA generation?

post #1 of 66
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http://www.velonews.com/article/8403...sitive-for-epo

So now Ricco, Piepoli, and Schumacher have all tested positive for CERA at this year's Tour. Great job guys. At least now we know how Cancellara lost those TTs.

Too bad about Frank Schleck too, huh?
post #2 of 66
You have Kirchen and Kohl = kleen?
post #3 of 66
It is encouraging that the drug manufacturer Roche is helping in the testing to identify the drugs. Hopefully, these guys will get the message that they are going to get caught if they dope.
post #4 of 66
Until sponsors start pulling out its not going to make a big difference on cycling as a whole.

Its pretty well known that pretty much everyone does something that falls under the category of cheating, some get caught, others don't. The level of competition has gotten so high that its become a game of evening the playing field with these drugs, but not getting caught.

Professional cycling is really in a sad state..
post #5 of 66
The unfortunate part is that the 3 guys they caught using it won 5 stages of the Tour. Yeah, they will pay the penalty, but it ends up being a fantastic advertisement for how well the stuff works.
post #6 of 66
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And it comes 4 months after the race! Does anyone even remember who was 2nd in those races? Did the guy in 2nd test positive too? Wait, who won this thing????
post #7 of 66
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And it comes 4 months after the race! Does anyone even remember who was 2nd in those races? Did the guy in 2nd test positive too? Wait, who won this thing????
See above Kirchen and Kohl kuestion; imo they were the only ones of note in that finish.
post #8 of 66
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Yikes, TdF says there are 30 more riders with suspect values whose tests are not done yet. Also, the IOC is retesting 1000 samples from the Olympics. Maybe we'll finally see that it's not just cyclists (even F1 driver Fernando Alonso is supposedly a Puerto guy).
post #9 of 66
Its not cheating if they all do it.....let them use the damn drugs, then we wouldnt have so many athletes unexpectedly die from using so-so drugs, they instead could be using the best stuff that is readily detectable but is safer and can be carefully monitored.
post #10 of 66
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Yikes, TdF says there are 30 more riders with suspect values whose tests are not done yet. Also, the IOC is retesting 1000 samples from the Olympics. Maybe we'll finally see that it's not just cyclists (even F1 driver Fernando Alonso is supposedly a Puerto guy).
You gonna watch 2009?
post #11 of 66
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Its not cheating if they all do it.....let them use the damn drugs, then we wouldnt have so many athletes unexpectedly die from using so-so drugs, they instead could be using the best stuff that is readily detectable but is safer and can be carefully monitored.
richie its unnatural to start. If you unexpectedly die from using a banned substance you desevred it, the guy who use nothing has nothing to worry about.

I think punishments for stuff like this should be WAY more stringent. As off right now its in some people minds that the rewards still outweigh the downsides. If you make the downsides much worse people will stop trying to dope.
post #12 of 66
I want to watch a bike race, not a biology experiment.
post #13 of 66
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You gonna watch 2009?
Do you even need to ask. Of course. It's still the best race in the world.
post #14 of 66
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I want to watch a bike race, not a biology experiment.
Its pharmacology
post #15 of 66
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Its pharmacology
It's not about the drugs, it's about what they are doing to the bodies of the riders.
post #16 of 66
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You have Kirchen and Kohl = kleen?
kohl down. menchov to 3rd overall.

next?

http://www.velonews.com/article/8427...itive-for-cera
post #17 of 66
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Its pharmacology
Has your interest in bicycle racing increased or decreased in the last three years? Landis pretty much killed it for me, but if use of banned substances has increased your interest and perhaps other's interest, maybe it's good for the sport!
post #18 of 66
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Maybe Vande Velde can win this thing.
post #19 of 66
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Has your interest in bicycle racing increased or decreased in the last three years? Landis pretty much killed it for me, but if use of banned substances has increased your interest and perhaps other's interest, maybe it's good for the sport!
I think if the cyclists were some massive superhumans that it would be an awesome spectacle to behold.
post #20 of 66
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I think if the cyclists were some massive superhumans that it would be an awesome spectacle to behold.
It already is.
post #21 of 66
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I think if the cyclists were some massive superhumans that it would be an awesome spectacle to behold.
yeah with people dieing.....
post #22 of 66
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yeah with people dieing.....

....no no no, dieing is what they are doing now.
post #23 of 66
Thread Starter 

 http://www.velonews.com/article/91365/rebellin-schumacher-are-cera-suspects

 

Anyone think that Bolts is the runner?

 

BTW - My wife and I think it's hilarious that a walker also tested positive for CERA.

post #24 of 66

Not only that, but she used CERA , tarnished her reputation, and didn't even win.

 

NYTimes link to the story.

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I can't decide whether to go out and drink more Gerolsteiner or not.

post #26 of 66

 

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 View PostI think if the cyclists were some massive superhumans that it would be an awesome spectacle to behold.


Let's just make them gladiators.  If you get dropped we chop their heads off live on pay- for- view.
 

 

Explain again how fewer will die if drugs are encouraged.  They will all take the recommended dosage?

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BTW - My wife and I think it's hilarious that a walker also tested positive for CERA.


And why would that be so funny?  Because winning an Olympic race walk is so easy it requires no training or aerobic ability?
 

 

Even without drugs this woman would thrash all the ignorant people who think they are not athletes.

 

 

post #28 of 66
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And why would that be so funny? 


Because she is walking. It's also funny that there is such a thing as Olympic walking.

 

What's not funny is that she may be looking at a lengthy prison term.

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What's not funny is that she may be looking at a lengthy prison term.



 

No, that's wonderful.  Put the cheats away.

 

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Because she is walking. It's also funny that there is such a thing as Olympic walking

 

 

 

What is not funny is that these people train for years, have medals stolen by cheaters, and suffer the from the disrespect from ignorant, arrogant fools who know nothing about their sport. 

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What is not funny is that these people train for years, have medals stolen by cheaters, and suffer the from the disrespect from ignorant, arrogant fools who know nothing about their sport. 


Wait ... the curling team took CERA ???

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