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Progressor Vs Dynastar 4x4 Vs Rossi CX 80 : any insight please?

post #1 of 25
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Progressor Vs Dynastar 4x4 Vs Rossi CX 80 : any insight please?
Hi! Thanks for the great reviews - can I get some input from around the room?
I'm a masters racer out east (ont and quebec) - mostly I have all race or cheater race skis (on the Atomic WC GS12 183 23M this year and the SL12 WC. Skied The Fischer RC4 180 cheat GS ski last year). Got into more all-mountain skiing last year with trees, bumps and the powder from the great season last year.
I was using a Rossi 9s Oversize 165 (detuned slalom ski)last year to ski trees, etc, but please note - last year was the 2nd season on it and the ski is DEAD. no energy left and a nice soft tip. Looking for a replacement for this year for skiing afternoons, trees, some small bumps, etc, but am also expecting lots of fast carving late in the day.Would like to buy an 07/08 to save $$.
6'1" 198 lbs

I really don't know too much about all mountain skis - tried some mid-fat waisted skis last year and struggled with the soft tip. My choices I'm considering are :
07/08 Fischer Progessor: thinking 170 cm
08or09 Dynastar Contact 4X4
09 Rossi CX80

Will any of the above be forgiving enough in the trees/bumps or will they all react like a slalom ski and launch skyward - LOL?

I'm thinking the Fischer would be good - boot around carving then duck into trees for a bit, but am concerned it will bite back too much. All advice appreciated as the ski show is coming - will purchase without skiing it, most likely
post #2 of 25
I've skied all three of those. For what you want, I would choose the CX80 hands-down.
post #3 of 25
Both the 178cm size 4x4 & the 175cm size Progressor are beefy GS type skis in terms of performance. They are wide enough for a variety of conditions.

I traded my 175cm Progressor and purchased a 172cm 4x4.

The 4x4 provides 10% more versatility, is a little more user friendly and provides a performance increase over the Progressor IMO.

Both are great skis.

CX80? Have not skied a Rossi in 5 years.

Michael
post #4 of 25
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The 4x4 provides 10% more versatility, is a little more user friendly and provides a performance increase over the Progressor IMO
Would you want to ski it in bumps and trees? I wouldn't.
post #5 of 25
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Thanks guys for checking in - I was actually reading thru old posts and almost sent a pvt note.

Can you expand on why the CX-80 rocked so hard please? I found my rossi's too soft and cooked them in less than 2 seasons. Still, the edgefeel was awesome

Some reasons I'm considering the Progressor - familiarity with Fischer and I had Dynastar Course 67's @ 178 and found them a bit soft after a bit. Also, I might be able to get the Progressors in an 08 and discounted. Anyone try the Progressor 8+? Too soft?
post #6 of 25
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Would you want to ski it in bumps and trees? I wouldn't.
Hi - also, last thought. Would you give consideration to the Atomic nomad? Blackeye or some other?

Reason I ask is I am racing Atomic this year; I know keeping a consistent ramp angle is big in race skis - would the same benefit apply to all mtn?

Sorry - new to all mtn skiing. My hill is small and all we have are gates,gates,gates
post #7 of 25
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Wildcat - how is the progressor in trees? does the tip soften in after some time? Do you launch? Thanks!
post #8 of 25
I've never skied any of the Atomics, so no opinion there. The thing is that the 4X4 and the Progressor practically are race skis - which you already have. No doubt the CX 80s are softer, but for the skiing you want to do, that may be a god thing. They are also quite a bit wider then the other two. If I'mnot mistaken, the Progressor is 70mm, and the 4X4 is 72 or maybe 75mm. Another ski that might make sense to try would be the Nordica Top Fuel or Jet Fuel.
post #9 of 25
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Yes - I've looked over those 2 also. I skied some nordica speedmachine last year and found the very damp, but a little slow edge to edge - would make me a bit nervouse in the trees (almost said "edgy"... ) sounds like the CX 80 is a must try - any insights on length and feeling of?
post #10 of 25
I agree with Epic. The 4x4 and Progressor are both high performance carvers. Soft bumps are doable but not trees. These are not skis for Mad River Glen.

The Nordi's are good options as is the 8+ and the Nomad.

Michael
post #11 of 25
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hmmm - definitely keep it soft then?
post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I've never skied any of the Atomics, so no opinion there. The thing is that the 4X4 and the Progressor practically are race skis - which you already have. No doubt the CX 80s are softer, but for the skiing you want to do, that may be a god thing. They are also quite a bit wider then the other two. If I'mnot mistaken, the Progressor is 70mm, and the 4X4 is 72 or maybe 75mm. Another ski that might make sense to try would be the Nordica Top Fuel or Jet Fuel.

So we're at Progressor 8+, Nordica Top Fuel or jet fuel, and CX80 ?
let's call the tree stuff at most 20% of the time at most.
post #13 of 25
Keep in mind a ski like the Nomad has a huge amount a grip while being very good in off-piste conditions.

MB
post #14 of 25
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Thanks again for the help here guys - I'm buying in the next couple of weeks to take advantage of the sales...
post #15 of 25
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Any suggestion on the Nomad model?
Blackeye? Whiteout?
post #16 of 25
Just going by stats, not experience:

Rossi's are soft, but if your skiing in the untouched snow between the trees, you probably want something a little soft, like the CX 80.

Agree the Progressor is a little bit more hard-snow oriented than what you are looking for, from Fischer you should try RX Cool heat.

Contact 4x4 looks good on paper too.

Until I know more I would have to bet my money on the CX80 as the best choice, given that you have a bunch of race skis to play on the hardpack already, and you liked the Rossi 9S Oversize.
post #17 of 25
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HI Ghost - skiing here in ontario and QC, so definitely have plenty of race skiis. Sierraskis has the nordica jet fuel for $627.

this all came about as my race boards torpedoed at tremblant last year - LOL
post #18 of 25
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Any suggestion on the Nomad model?
Blackeye? Whiteout?
Crimson, no joke
post #19 of 25
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I need to figure out how to get them all. LOL
post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by csr_jr View Post
HI Ghost - skiing here in ontario and QC, so definitely have plenty of race skiis. Sierraskis has the nordica jet fuel for $627.

this all came about as my race boards torpedoed at tremblant last year - LOL
Jet fuel and Crimson TI also look good on paper.
post #21 of 25
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Last Q guys -

Anyone skied the Nordica Nitrous? Looks similar to the topfuel, but a bit softer. Also on sale for $427 or so

think it will be too soft?
post #22 of 25
It depends on how much performance you are willing to give up for ease of use between the trees in the soft snow and on the moguls and how fast you might be tempted to ski them. Jet Fuel yes, Top Fuel Maybe, Nitrous -I don't think so. But someone who has skied them might better advise.

If you want cheap, you could always buy these http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=72475
post #23 of 25
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Right - going to check on all the above at the ski shop tomorrow and see what works from a budget perspective. Going to wrap in the atomic blackeyes in also
post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by csr_jr View Post
Last Q guys -

Anyone skied the Nordica Nitrous? Looks similar to the topfuel, but a bit softer. Also on sale for $427 or so

think it will be too soft?
I didn't like the Nitrous. The balance felt all messed up to me. It felt like all tail no tip.
post #25 of 25
I sold my Progressors, will be buying the Contact 4x4's!
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