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8 days - 4 in winter park and 4 in Steamboat?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Ok, i'm from the UK so excuse the lack of knowledge on the subject but...

We're travelling to the colorado ski area for 14 days in Feb 09.

Looking to spend 4 nights at Winter Park, then 4 at Steamboat followed by the last 6 in Frisco.

That would give us (taking into account jet-lag, sorting ski hire etc;

2 1/2 days at Winter Park
3 1/2 days at Steamboat
5 days at Frisco

All I was thinking is maybe we should stop at Winter Park for 5 nights then Steamboat for 3 maybe?

It's a totally mixed bunch varying from beginner to advanced.

It might seem like such a small detail, but we're travelling a long way and spending a fair amount of $'s so we want to be doing things just right!

I've searched this forum like crazy (and continue to do so!) but some advice on this specific query would be great!

Many thanks,

Joe

P.S. To perhaps make our skiing time at Winter Park a bit longer, would there be anywhere in between there and Denver, where we could rent our stuff late-ish (due to land at Denver just before 6pm on the Saturday)
post #2 of 21
Sounds like you have a fun trip planned Joe. Four and four sounds about right to me. Off the top of my head I'd say that SB has more to offer the intermediates in your group and WP has more for the advanced skiers. If the advanced skiers in your group really enjoy the moguls then they'll have a ball on the Mary Jane side of WP.

I'm sure there are places in Denver to rent gear on a Saturday night and I'm sure someone here can tell you about them. There are definitely shops in WP (Grand Sports, Ski Depot, Christy Sports etc.) where that can be done.... Well shoot, a quick check of some web sites reveals that you may arrive too late for that, but I'd swear I've been in Christy Sports after 8pm... perhaps they have extended winter hours

Hopefully another Bear will come along and be of more help to you.

Have fun
post #3 of 21
Really need to know about your group. If you're just doing groomers, then 2 at SB could be enough, but if glades are on the menu, then 4 will be fine - best tree runs to be found - nirvana for a tree skier.

Why hanging in Frisco? What to do? Flail and the rest of the I-70 resorts are only 1.5 hours from SB, why not take in a day (or 4 there?).
post #4 of 21
I believe you can pre-reserve rental skis online at some of the rental shops in WP. Christie Sports i think does. Then you could pick them up on your way to the hill on Sunday. Of course, if you're renting boots, that will still take time.

There are places on the way off I-70 I think in Idaho Springs. I seem to recall they were open late, but i can't remember the name.

My guess is you'll be exhausted and won't want to stop on your way that evening. Also, if you rent at or near the resort, it's easier to exchange if you don't like the fit of the boot or the ski.

Finally, you may experience altitude issues. (do a search for remedies and advice on that) So, a more leisurely morning the next day while you rent equipment isn't necessarily a bad idea.
post #5 of 21
One thought, and I don't know how it would effect you logistically. But you might consider going to Steamboat first. It's further from the Denver airport but it's lower and might give you a chance to get used to the altitude better. I believe Winter Park is around 9,000 feet at the base.
post #6 of 21
If it was me I''d skip WP entirely go straight to the Boat and spend a week there and then go Frisco for the second week and hit up Beaver Creek, Vail, Copper, Breckenridge and A-Basin. The first week in Steamboat will help you adapt to the altitude. If you are going to hit all Steamboat and the various SUmmit and Eagle Co resorts, I'm not sure WP adds anything to the equation but JMHO.
post #7 of 21
If it were me:
Sleep in Denver Sat. head up to Dillon early. Stop at Virgin Island to get rentals for the entire trip. Go to Keystone. Quit early and drive to the Boat (2hrs). Stay a while and then back to Frisco for Vail/BC/Brek/Basin.
post #8 of 21
Isn't WP, SB and Copper all on the same pass? Provided it can be purchased without being there in person...
post #9 of 21
Check out the helmet cam of WP tree skiing that Bushwacker posted in this thread ...
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...172#post966172

at nyc, you are correct about the Rocky Mountain Super Pass being good for WP, Copper and SB, but you can only renew online. must be purchased in person the first time i believe.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the replies!

Thats a good point about renting in-resort, makes sense if we want to change stuff etc!

The group is totally varied, some of us will be doing 'glades' (is that off-piste in trees?) and other will be on-piste.

Staying the 4 nights at steamboat will give us 3 full days skiing, and we want to stay up there for the weekend, so staying there first would defeat that point, and we'd rather not drive much further than WP after a long day travelling!

If we stayed at Steamboat for longer (7 nights?), would it be large enough an area to keep the advanced skiers occupied?

We're intending on doing WP purely on a colleages' reccommendation, what with none of us having ever been to CO before! And it seems like a good stop gap en route to SB from Denver.

We were going to stay in Frisco for 6 nights based on my colleague, and from many searched on here. We can get pretty decent lodging for a fair price, then we were planning on driving to the resorts, maybe just one day in Vail if finances allow it!

Perhaps doing a few nights in Dillon first, then SB for the weekend, then back to frisco would work...

Gonna have to get back on VRBO for Dillon now lol

Many thanks for all the advice

Joe
post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by TangoFiver View Post
If we stayed at Steamboat for longer (7 nights?), would it be large enough an area to keep the advanced skiers occupied?

Steamboat is one of the largest ski areas in CO...so yes. I think Steamboat is head and shoulders above WP or any of the Summit County resorts. Vail and BC both compare favorably to SB but none of the others. I'm not saying the others are bad just not as good as SB or the Eagle county resorts.
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
Ah right, fair enough.

I have noticed that the cost of lodging is a bit more in SB though, and am I right in thinking that lift passes are quite expensive there too? (compared to WP?)

Joe
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post
Steamboat is one of the largest ski areas in CO...so yes. I think Steamboat is head and shoulders above WP or any of the Summit County resorts. Vail and BC both compare favorably to SB but none of the others. I'm not saying the others are bad just not as good as SB or the Eagle county resorts.
Have to humbly but heartily disagree. I love the Boat, and try to spend time there each winter, but 7 days - no way. 3 days max at 'da Boat, 1 at Flail, 1 at Keystone, 1 Arapahoe, and a BC or Breck day thrown in for good measure should do it.

Vail is orders of magnitude larger than SB (5300 acres vs. 3000), and Keystone is not far off SB's size.

SB is great for it's trees and the groomers are nice, but it's pretty intermediate, and you'll find stuff at the other I-70 resorts in terms of personality and terrain that'll never happen at da boat.

Oh, and SB is not part of the Epic pass that the other resorts are on.
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
Have to humbly but heartily disagree. I love the Boat, and try to spend time there each winter, but 7 days - no way. 3 days max at 'da Boat, 1 at Flail, 1 at Keystone, 1 Arapahoe, and a BC or Breck day thrown in for good measure should do it.

Vail is orders of magnitude larger than SB (5300 acres vs. 3000), and Keystone is not far off SB's size.

SB is great for it's trees and the groomers are nice, but it's pretty intermediate, and you'll find stuff at the other I-70 resorts in terms of personality and terrain that'll never happen at da boat.

Oh, and SB is not part of the Epic pass that the other resorts are on.

Vail isn't even twice as large as Steamboat so it's not orders of magnitude bigger.

I put Vail , BC and Steamboat in one category all about the same but the Boat gets the best snow.

I worked for Keystone for 6 years and I love the Basin but neither of them are Steamboats class......it is not close between Keystone and STeamboat or between Breckenridge and Steamboat. I want some of what you are smoking if you believe they are. The snow is so much better in the Boat.

I have both passes and can ski at any Vail Resort and any Intrawest resort in Colorado. My favorites are Steamboat, Basin, BC and Vail in that order. I only go to Keystone, Breck or WP for the occassional visit and then quickly realize why I like the others more....more snow and/or better terrain.
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post
Vail isn't even twice as large as Steamboat so it's not orders of magnitude bigger.

I put Vail , BC and Steamboat in one category all about the same but the Boat gets the best snow.

I worked for Keystone for 6 years and I love the Basin but neither of them are Steamboats class......it is not close between Keystone and STeamboat or between Breckenridge and Steamboat. I want some of what you are smoking if you believe they are. The snow is so much better in the Boat.

I have both passes and can ski at any Vail Resort and any Intrawest resort in Colorado. My favorites are Steamboat, Basin, BC and Vail in that order. I only go to Keystone, Breck or WP for the occassional visit and then quickly realize why I like the others more....more snow and/or better terrain.
Is the snow better at SB? - probably I agree it is lighter. Terrain vs Basin, Keyston, Vail? Please - unless you're a terminal intermediate, you know the answer to that.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
If it were me:
Sleep in Denver Sat. head up to Dillon early. Stop at Virgin Island to get rentals for the entire trip. Go to Keystone. Quit early and drive to the Boat (2hrs). Stay a while and then back to Frisco for Vail/BC/Brek/Basin.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!! We always rent at Virgin I., never any problems, and really, really good rates.

Ditto on this plan, skip WP, spend most of your time in Frisco (or Dillon, Silverthorne). I'd skip the night in Denver, drive straight to Summit County. Very central to Vail and Beaver (20 and 30 min. drive), definitely do Copper and Keystone, maybe 1 day at Breck (but definitely couple of nights on the town), and 4 days in Steamboat. Dream vacation!
post #17 of 21
I also vote for skipping Winter Park. I am an expert skier, and found WP/MJ to be boring in a January trip this year. That was even with -7 degree temps and knee deep powder for two days. Sure, "Know Jane, Know pain" is their motto due to the fact that they don't groom and have huge moguls. I can ski bumps fine, but you can do that at any resort. I did not find the WP/MJ terrain to be very challenging and mostly low-angle.

You are coming to Colorado for big open alpine terrain, and places like Vail and A-Basin are much more worth it. Especially coming from the UK. Have a great time.
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
Ah well booked it now, the rest of the group were happy to go with the original plan, which will give us;

2 1/2 days at Winter Park
3 1/2 days at Steamboat
5 days at Frisco

Now we're used to very little powder (if any at all), so if there's any at WP i'm sure we'll be happy!

So i'll be posting more questions on here (if I can't find the answers using the search etc ) for more help from your good selves!

Many thanks once again

Joe

P.S. I reckon we we rent seperately at each of the 3 places we go to, as 'Mom' says it's easier to exchange etc
post #19 of 21
I've been treated well by Christie Sports, they have several locations on/near mountain. I'll call 3-4 weeks early and have usually lucked into speaking with a manager who'll end up giving a good discount. this was for my kids ski's, but hey, they were still nearly 1/3 to 1/2 off. Steamboat Central can give you a good idea on their reservations page for what discounts are out there, i've used it for a baseline to figure out a good deal. I usually just do the simple thing (which might be more pricey) and booked through one of the rental resorts as they can pass on multi day lift discounts to you while discounting a condo/room as a package deal. I've had good luck with 'Steamboat Resorts', but there as a lot of others (see steamboat central) if you don't find what you want on VRBO.
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
Isn't WP, SB and Copper all on the same pass? Provided it can be purchased without being there in person...
Yes, they are the same pass but they must be purchased in person.
post #21 of 21
Your plan sounds good to me. We stayed in Frisco for 5 days a few seasons back and it is a very convenient location and a nice small town with a few decent places to eat and a big ski shop. You are about 5 minutes from Copper, 20 minutes to Vail, and about 10 or so to Breckenridge, A-Basin and Keystone. Dillon is a larger town and is closer to A-Basin, Breck. and Keystone. All areas are easy to get to from either town. We ended up at Vail 3 of our 5 days with a day each at Breckenridge and Copper.
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